Spanky Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 We are booked into the Thriftlodge in Cochrane from December 26 to 29, not sure what the plan is after today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt17 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ox said: I couldn't find a legend for the map. Am eye blind? on the lower left you can choose show map layers. but generally for that application Grey is private, green is provincial/national park yellow/orange is crown, the different colours show different land use areas(this is for northern Ontario), from there you can click through to see the actually policy documents to determine what is allowed on a specific land use area. Lots of info through that application once you spend some time using it. But not the easiest to navigate superficially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ox said: I couldn't find a legend for the map. Am eye blind? Just below the Bookmark tab is a box that says Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Would it not be very bad for customer relations if the OFSC decided to go against what the gov't has said is OK? Hopefully they get the anticipated 25 cm. of snow so there is more than 72 km. of open trail in Cochrane before those people make the long drive. I expect the worst and hope for the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, matt17 said: on the lower left you can choose show map layers. but generally for that application Grey is private, green is provincial/national park yellow/orange is crown, the different colours show different land use areas(this is for northern Ontario), from there you can click through to see the actually policy documents to determine what is allowed on a specific land use area. Lots of info through that application once you spend some time using it. But not the easiest to navigate superficially. Welcome back Matt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Man Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, volunteer2 said: A couple other things are that under a grey lockdown essential visitors can't go into nursing homes so now you can see your loved ones until after Christmas then i believe you wont be able to also we can have Christmas Mass all but the ones in grey at this point Yup my wife went to visit her dad today. He's in a retirement home, but his dementia has gotten to the point he needs to be in long term care but due to covid it's not happening. Poor guy isn't getting the care he needs(of no fault to the psw's, their not equipped to handle his needs) and she has to gown up to visit him. Doubtful she will be able to now, sad all around. These situations are what people need to be aware when they say it's not big deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Poo Man said: Yup my wife went to visit her dad today. He's in a retirement home, but his dementia has gotten to the point he needs to be in long term care but due to covid it's not happening. Poor guy isn't getting the care he needs(of no fault to the psw's, their not equipped to handle his needs) and she has to gown up to visit him. Doubtful she will be able to now, sad all around. These situations are what people need to be aware when they say it's not big deal. Yup. My Mom was in LTC but did pass away last month. The covid takes a real toll on the residents even when no one has it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 There was a couple comments about the number of deaths earlier. What no politicians talk about is the difference in the anticipated death rate that occurs daily and the death rate during Covid? The Province / Country / City / hospitals expect “X” number of people to pass away every day. How many people above this number are passing away? How far above the natural mortality rate are we? Or are we actually above the normal mortality rate? And earlier on in all of this Covid talk one of the Medical associations was saying that to be on the safe side they were classifying any death where Covid was present or appeared to be present a Covid death. So a massive heart attack victim with a fever was a Covid death while heart attack killed them. where are the true numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Saul Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Nunz said: No offense but do you even think when you type responses? You win post ont the year in my books. Thanks Nunz.. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Just below the Bookmark tab is a box that says Legend ... after clicking on "Map Layers" that is.... Thanks. It still told me where to look - and that it WAS there, I just needed to find it.... OH FOR PETEY"S SAKES! Click on Legend and git this: Quote Refer to Help for Legend details So then find "Help" under the "Aboot" tab, and get this pop-up: Quote Partially uintrusted shtuff beyond this click The application is attempting to load content from 'https://www.ontario.ca/page/crown-land-use-policy-atlas'. Do you recognize and trust this URL? Then open that to a whole new Bible of shtuff.... . I guess I'm not that interested.... I already have my Topo's... edit II: Now when I went back to it, the legend is "up" now. Go figger.... Edited December 21, 2020 by Ox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther340 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sksman said: There was a couple comments about the number of deaths earlier. What no politicians talk about is the difference in the anticipated death rate that occurs daily and the death rate during Covid? The Province / Country / City / hospitals expect “X” number of people to pass away every day. How many people above this number are passing away? How far above the natural mortality rate are we? Or are we actually above the normal mortality rate? And earlier on in all of this Covid talk one of the Medical associations was saying that to be on the safe side they were classifying any death where Covid was present or appeared to be present a Covid death. So a massive heart attack victim with a fever was a Covid death while heart attack killed them. where are the true numbers? I have wondered this too. It would help eliminate the bias of covid versus actual death cause. What is the typical percent or number per 100,000 that dies from all causes ( all sickness , all suicides, all gun etc etc for Canada ( or by province) What is trend over past ten years....keeping in mind population growth. Now look and see if all death stats for this weird year 2020 .... shows a significant anomaly ? ..that anamoly increase can then be more accurately attributed to the pandemic. This stat would also account for increased deaths due to pandemics impact re suicides , delayed surgeries etc etc. That in my humble opinion would be a far more truthful way to measure impact of pandemic. I suspect the number attributed to pandemic would be less than numbers posted nowadays. Still serious but more meaningful statistics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) moh-provincewide-shutdown-en-2020-12-21.pdf The above link (let me know if it works) goes to the source document quoted earlier by Piston Lake Cruiser. Snowmobile trails are to remain open under the lockdown. See page 19: Outdoor Recreational Amenities ALSO See next post. Edited December 22, 2020 by Blake G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Scroll down to What's Open under the heading Fitness: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/what-s-open-and-closed-under-ontario-s-covid-19-lockdown-1.5240504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Blake G said: Scroll down to What's Open under the heading Fitness: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/what-s-open-and-closed-under-ontario-s-covid-19-lockdown-1.5240504 see I always said race car drivers are athletes now are we sledders "high performance athletes " asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
528rick Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Interesting that under Closed they list "motorsports" but under open they list snowmobile trails. better call Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barberch Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Sksman said: There was a couple comments about the number of deaths earlier. What no politicians talk about is the difference in the anticipated death rate that occurs daily and the death rate during Covid? The Province / Country / City / hospitals expect “X” number of people to pass away every day. How many people above this number are passing away? How far above the natural mortality rate are we? Or are we actually above the normal mortality rate? And earlier on in all of this Covid talk one of the Medical associations was saying that to be on the safe side they were classifying any death where Covid was present or appeared to be present a Covid death. So a massive heart attack victim with a fever was a Covid death while heart attack killed them. where are the true numbers? you mean with a fever and confirmed covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, 528rick said: Interesting that under Closed they list "motorsports" but under open they list snowmobile trails. better call Saul Lol Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Rich Saul said: You win post ont the year in my books. Thanks Nunz.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barberch Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, 528rick said: Interesting that under Closed they list "motorsports" but under open they list snowmobile trails. better call Saul careful. We dont want them to say trails are open but we cant use our motor sports mobile on them! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, Blake G said: moh-provincewide-shutdown-en-2020-12-21.pdf 513.41 kB · 3 downloads The above link (let me know if it works) goes to the source document quoted earlier by Piston Lake Cruiser. Snowmobile trails are to remain open under the lockdown. See page 19: Outdoor Recreational Amenities ALSO See next post. also see on page 26 Southern Ontario goes to Renfrew County and Simcoe Muskoka health units not an issue since trails won't close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) If strip clubs can stay open, surely the we can snowmobile ... Edited December 22, 2020 by Turbo Doo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Crow said: My bet is it will be extended. Spring lockdown didn't get rid of it, this one will be no different, as it sounds like the plan is the same. On top of that, the new strain is apparently more easily spread. No, no, no....it won't be extended. The 72 hour rule solves everything. "Canada will stop incoming flights from the U.K. for 72 hours to prevent the spread of a new coronavirus strain, according to a statement from Health Canada." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Saul Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, gobills said: Lol Saul I have the tee shirt... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Rich Saul said: I have the tee shirt... Such great shows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Canuck said: No, no, no....it won't be extended. The 72 hour rule solves everything. "Canada will stop incoming flights from the U.K. for 72 hours to prevent the spread of a new coronavirus strain, according to a statement from Health Canada." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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