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Mostly limited to riding locally on weekends. My riding partner, the wife and I prefer Sunday afternoons/evenings at quieter times when the "yahoos* have gone home. Easy to see others with the same idea, I have gone solo in primetime and it can be mental out there, very similar to "Aholes" travelling the roadways with no regards for others.

Thank you. you’d think they would have put that info on their website as well as the answering machine guessing the KW firm will outsource to India and cheapen the quality

https://thehighlander.ca/2025/08/28/minden-manufacturer-leaving-county/

Has Tekrider closed shop? I emailed them last week, no reply Called twice this week and got the answering machine. Didn’t leave a message Called a third time and left a message but never got a call back When going to websites like Fortnine they are out of common sizes

I will stop in to see you Dan, no snow as I doo the same. Paul

Red headed stepchild scenario for some clubs and high traffic trails getting needed or required or extra funding sounds like a better scenario then some nerdy geek looking at a computer screen with data from an iPhone app that the majority of sledders do not use and planning and cutting the entire groomer fleet and strategy off incorrect data! I know a km of trail in northern Ontario is the same as one in Barrie or Burnt river or Port Perry. All trails are equal! Railbeds within 2 hours of Toronto that everyone flocks to as soon as there is snow should only be groomed 2 times per week correct? That is the new way. The app data shows it! And I do attend meetings! And I do my best to help out!

Agreed, but it would have to be district wide, or we'd likely end up with some Redheaded Stepchild scenarios with clubs that just don't have the resources to raise much outside funding. Like I mentioned before. IMO the better plan would of been each District would only receive 75-80% of the usual provincial funding payments, how they used it within their district was up to their discretion. However there would be a clause in their about Districts using up at least 50-75% their surplus funds before they receive anything, if their District surplus was above a certain threshold. As the Districts with surpluses used them up, the districts with lower than the surplus threshold amount would then receive equal portions of the un allotted provincial funding not doled out to the higher surplus Districts.

Hey Signfan Looks like you're in Peterborough. I'm in the Lakefield area. Let me know when you are available if you want to do a shorter run. A quick 200km is good with us. The 350-400kms runs are not as appealing as they once were...lol... I can email you when we do plan to go out. Let me know. Dan

I agree with you SKS. If clubs are willing/able to make it happen, they should be allowed to.

NWOSTA big loop has been on the to do list. Bit of a drive, but maybe should make it happen this year.

You were too fast Nutter!!...lol..

IMO, it sounds like the other clubs in the district gave up enough of their trails to accommodate the District's needed reductions.

From my understanding the district decided that no Sunset Trail Riders trails were needed to be cut, the required District cuts were made elsewhere in their District. But good to hear about and see more outside funding happening.

Interesting that STR claims no trails lost due to their partnership with FEDNOR and others and their investment in grooming equipment etc. I don’t understand why Southern clubs were told no they could not buy and run their own groomer? Sounds like STR should be kicked out of OFSC similar to Carden was for not being compliant to OFSC gestapo rules!

Rise up ...... 🍻

Definitely not your club. I can honestly say I see your groomer more when out riding than any other groomer.

Nor ours. We pretty much had 2 groomers out daily. However, this year we are down to one groomer. We will be double shifting as much as possible to try to make it work. Hopefully the groomer can hold up!

Wasn't our club. We groomed whenever we could have an operator in the seat.

Just a reminder. 0830-1600. Swing by the District 2 booth and say hi! I will be there with a few other guys from the club, unless the rain on Saturday night is snow as I plow. We will have D2 paper maps. (That's what I'm told ..lol..) Dan

My thoughts exactly, it just works so good for me. I've been looking at the none R Turbo too, but figure for the price point difference and availability used, if I go that route I might as well have all the jam. Seeing the turbo glow red hot under the hood on my sons last 2 sleds made me cringe lol

Depends on what they determine "proper" coverage is and looks like. Again, that's a moving target and not the same for everyone. It's business decision. Like now, self insurance is reality - so you price your product accordingly. Its clearer now for me how the MTO involvement ties into the bigger picture. But the offset to that - is they control the pricing of the permit, so you get what you get.

Well, I'll stick with my comment. You probably don't remember before the MTO involvement when the OFSC was paying 8 million dollars for insurance. If the OFSC was to dissolve that relationship what would insurance cost now for the proper coverage? There is little to no hope that even with permit increases the OFSC could afford it without a lot of government dollars and that is also not likely to happen in my opinion.

I have a 2016 ,1200 and also like it very much .Hard to upgrade when it just works .Im thinking 900 turbo ,not r model but not many used ones

Like anything with politics involved, it all depends on who's holding the approval pen at the time, and political and economic climate. This is the first time the MTO has not approved a permit price and structure recommendation from the OFSC since Bill 101 came to be. There was a multi year threshold agreement in place if a certain criteria of need was meet, capped at 7% a season. But again, who holds pen decides. Although sledding generates a huge amount of economic spin off, we are still a pimple in the grand scheme of things, with a none guaranteed head count of 80 to 100k participants in a province of 16 million. If everyone woven into the economic fabric of sledding in Ontario spoke up it would certainly help. I see that the Parry Sound Chamber of Commerce is now getting involved in the municipal trail closure issue effecting access into town, fantastic to see.