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One thing that is hurting places like HH and Base Camp is that sleds are getting better and better on fuel than they did 20 years ago and with the popularity of Linq style cans a lot of guys can make these loops without getting fuel or if they need to stop, buying very little fuel. I remember back even in the early 2000s, all you could safely get is 100 miles out of a tank of fuel. Even Cochrane to Kap required a splash of fuel in SRF. Now, 120miles/200kms is very easy to do with a modern sled. With guys not needing fuel at all or just needing 10 litres to complete the loop it is making it really hard for these outposts to justify staying open. The last time I was at HH, which was the day it closed for the season last year, I topped up my sled even though I know I could have gotten away with 10 litres. That being said, I used my Linq can to finish the Abitibi Canyon loop the same weekend when the guy told me $60 for 10L of fuel.

1. 6 Day New Brunswick/ Gaspe trip. Will spend 3 days in each province. We did this trip last year. Same loop this year with different group of guys. 2. A five day loop, Saint Raymond, Lac St Jean, Mont Valin loop. 3. Another week during March Break couples trip. Haven’t decided yet where we wil spend this week. Will be Quebec or possibly NB

Here is a little preview of the commercial that V2 and I were a part of on the day of the shoot. V2 and I supplied the sleds and our services as wranglers for the day.

Thanks for all the info! I saw on Kijiji a triton TC167 advertised at Factory Recreation in Midland. i called them and they had 2 in stock! I went up had a look and put a deposit on it! their price was inline with what Scottr mentioned above and the trailer is equipped the same. Now I have to look for a sled!

I am hoping to pick this up eventually once Polaris lets me.

Weber Lane is now building that style trailer. Canadian made product. Local service.

Well, thank goodness for the rest of us who need places to stop and eat there are people out there willing to take a chance and make something work and follow their dreams, otherwise we'd have nowhere to go.

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1002333/ontario-enhancing-snowmobile-trails-in-the-north Nice to see the top C re-route and the issues north of Dubreuville on the list.

A few of us rode up last year for a day trip from Sudbury. Was a great time, and great spot! This season were thinking of renting a cabin and staying over. Hosts were fantastic people. Lots of snow on the way home.

They should not be allowed to ship 2023 models with functioning DESS until they complete the 2022's they delivered incomplete. I understand they may but it's not right in my opinion.

Thought it was working finger hands - you know those Cats like to leave you stranded on the side of the trail & need a little work/massaging - another downed Cat!

So, by all evidence that we can find, there are no commercial flights out of Cochran. So, you have a private plane as well? .

Let me know when, willing to guide the area anytime!

Have a couple of ideas. Hoping for snow between Christmas and New Years - so we can shake the rust off. Last winter - my son had a hockey game in Zurich, Ontario - there was good snow and lots of trails around - arena was s drop spot, I see on his schedule - we are there in February again this year, so I have told him we'll take the sleds if the weather is good - play his game - then ride after - would be a new area - good area for him as a young rider - *( fields - in/out etc. ) Looking to do a small trip with him once hockey schedule allows it. Other than that - a whole lot of sitting in the garage

Gas was $3.25 at HH when we were there and I didnt feel like I was being raped considering gas at the pumps was $2.00-$2.10 everywhere else that weekend. The 6 bucks/litre at Basecamp pissed me off though.

We should all support halfway when through there. The costs are legit. Base camp on the other hand. Pack your fuel caddy and breeze on by until they stop the gouging.

Once again folks can make new memories at an old haunt. 4 new cabins, a shop, and a new bears den. Good news.

Things are changing in Quebec like Ontario. I was reading a post on QR not long ago from a guy doing a bike trip on the north shore of Gaspe. Basically saying that some regular sled stops have posted that they won't be open this winter, some are closed certain days now or have shortened open hours due to lack of employees. Sounds like trip planners this winter may have to be on the phone more checking out food/fuel availability and maybe pre-booking accommodations if you haven't in the past.

From what I understand, there is a fairly long road to the camp that must be privately maintained by the staff for service, that I imagine is not cheap to maintain, plus the staff that stay of course, etc....to provide the service they have & keep the doors open. With the only revenue stream possibly now coming from fuel sales and snacks, there might need to be an adjustment to reflect the cost and cover the overhead, which I think for most is expected and as you said, they have always been fair. I was only suggesting the $6 as a joke because basecamp who charges quite the premium for fuel is on a road that I think is not serviced by them, so I imagine their overhead is quite a bit less given the locations of each and their situations.

GREAT NEWS! Early word has it that TOP Trail D between Searchmont and Wawa should be open this winter because fuel will be available at Ontario's Algoma Country's iconic Halfway Haven. Groomers can roll and riders can fill their sleds & warm up inside, but probably no lodgings or hot meals, maybe snacks.

OFSC Agm is this weekend coming. Nothing official regarding permit cost for this season..

I believe there will be 3 Wing Nights this year held at the Greenwood Rod & Gun ( where St. Agatha S.C. clubhouse used to be). The first one is November 4th Nick. Thanks to Greenwood R&G for letting the club use their facility!

I don't carry a strap with a high enough rating to tow a Yammi.

Yami-cat perhaps now that they’ve been tainted…. We’ve helped get some Yami’s going though on those cold morning start ups….conair’s are a wonderful tool….lol

80% of Arctic Cats are still on the trail! The other 20% made it home.

You could ride from Amos to Matagami and then to Lebel sur Quevillon (or vis versa) and have a pretty easy day. 330 km. but quite fast down the west side.

Talking to a fella who knows the owner, looking to make it an eatery of some sort. Like hoping for winning the lottery.

Both wife and I ordered ours this morning. Good omen is that it was -3 in Timmins this morning!

I think most of the guys on OC at least, have their sleds equipped to their liking and want to ride them when they go north. It doesn't make sense to own an expensive sled with associated costs and leave it sitting at home. In a lot of cases there are there are 2-4 people going north together and sharing the costs of fuel and rooms so its likely still much cheaper than flying and renting. In our groups case, the trip up and home gives us a chance to enjoy the conversations and being with friends.

Got my permit ordered. It opened at 9 AM. I have received my confirmation email but can't decipher permit # from the coding.

Just tried myself, still not available as of 8:15 am. Guess the website is having issues or someone forgot to press the "GO" button

You can fly to Timmins from Toronto Island every day. My buddy bought a new C8 from the Chevy Dealer in Timmins and flew up there to pick it up and drive it home. It was around $150 to fly 1 way and he was there in 90 mins. I have a client who has his own plane and has a cabin outside of Timmins. He flies up every weekend to sled.

Great idea! Enjoy the ski plane ride.

Ontario Snowmobile Trail Permit Fee Increase Posted on 29 Sep 2022 | by OFSC (Barrie, ON: September 29, 2022) – The Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs (OFSC) is announcing a $5 permit fee increase for 2023 Seasonal and Classic Ontario Snowmobile Trail Permits. The increase does not apply to Multi-Day or Special Event Trail Permits. Permits and Permit Gift Cards sales commence online October 1, 2022. Well below Canada’s current inflation rate of 7.0%, this modest permit fee increase ensures that trail riding will remain as affordable as possible for Ontario snowmobilers this season. At the same time, it also enables the Federation to keep pace with rising operational costs and allows us to make considerable investments in the groomers, trails, and infrastructure required to deliver Ontario’s premier winter tourism activity. “The OFSC remains committed to providing the best snowmobiling experience possible and that means continued investments in all aspects of our operations,” said CEO Ryan Eickmeier. “We are confident that this is a fair and balanced approach, with additional revenue being invested directly on the snow. We look forward to seeing everyone enjoy the 30,000km+ of OFSC trails this winter, made possible by thousands of club volunteers.” The fees for 2023 Ontario Snowmobile Trail Permits are: Seasonal Permit Purchased prior to November 2, 2022: $200 Purchased November 2, 2022 to December 1, 2022: $230 December 2, 2022 onwards: $280. Classic Permit Purchased prior to November 2, 2022: $160 Purchased November 2, 2022 to December 1, 20221: $160 December 2, 2022 onwards: $190 Special Event Permits $45 The permit fee increase was endorsed by the OFSC membership and based on an approved business case submitted to the Ministry of Transportation of Ontario. Ontario law requires a snowmobile entering an OFSC Prescribed Snowmobile Trail for recreational riding purposes to display a valid Ontario Snowmobile Trail Permit. For questions to schedule a media interview with the OFSC please contact Andrew Walasek at awalasek@ofsc.on.ca or by phone at 705-739-7669 x251.

Actually just saw him last weekend at the highway men car show place was packed saw another sledder. Had a bad accident last year prepping for grass drags. Full recovery.

For guys crossing the border in the Sault - paying the Halfway haven premium is worth it. Opens up a lot of great loops. Normally buy it twice from Halfway - once at the beginning of the trip and once at the end, on the way back to the truck at Searchmont. Reading some of the other posts on here - I'm not aware of some of the alternatives mentioned. We started riding in Ontario the year before Halfway reopened with Sean. That year we started in Wawa, and I much prefer to start in Searchmont. It's a couple more hours of driving time each way, and on the last day of the trip I'd be nervous about any storms coming through that would make it difficult to drive back down. Really enjoy riding in northern Ontario. May try Quebec this year. Did that once in 2003.

February 2020. Woke up to -29. Brrrrr. PLC is going to tell Eddie his picture is on the internet…….

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They have always been fair with fuel prices considering the logistics of getting it there

Staffing seemed to be one of their issues last season. Maybe they only need a couple of guys there if they are sellling gas. Maybe they see the lucrative market in boiled hot dogs that the Base Camp serves and are pivoting their business model to emulate BC.

You will know probably sometime next week, as approval needs to be made offical by MTO on any increases. Clubs will find out this weekend coming.

Ah I need to slow down in the muskoka trails anyway. So its probably better for me. The 850 XRS makes riding fast easy and fun.

Cat has always said that the new chassis is 2 stroke only. That being said, I bet they bring out a wide body version for the 998 Turbo eventually.

I would be willing to make a wager that Mach Z (or Formula III?) is back for MY24.

You might want to pm BlakeG or Slomo. Pretty sure they have these exact trailers.They could probably answer any of your questions.

Hey now, be kind All of my cats have got me home - even towed a few others (Cat, Doo & Poo) along the way.... I do not think I have towed a Yami yet though.....

Smokers fingers - CAT riders.

I'd expect that from a Cat rider, not a Poo rider....lol

Thing of the past, but still miss the character small town hotels offered in the "good ol' days!"

Motel Caribou was quite small. If the only option you would want to book real early.