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Yah baby. ... Cannot wait for the 2 '22 900 Turbo R's to show up...

The regular permit buyer should clearly be informed. It’s no wonder the rumours fly around about who gets paid to groom or free sleds for people. Or whatever. https://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-statistics-and-facts.html Snowmobiling is a big business and the revenues generated by permit sales should be clearly explained to the permit purchasers. How many of the 43,000sleds sold in 2020 were in Ontario? How many new sleds sold in 2021? How many ordered in Ontario in 2022?

I ordered one of these

LOL. I use the groomer now to groom the trail from my place to the OFSC trail that is next to my property. It's kinda nice not having to road run....not that I had to before, it's only 1000 feet through my back "40". Now with that aside, the groomer lives here, as of this year. Fuel tank, oil, parts etc. etc. It comes in my shop at least weekly to get thawed out, serviced and repaired. Small stuff like wiper blades, bolts, grease etc, I just order and install and it's absorbed as if used for my business I don't take anything for the heat required ( in floor Natural G

Son ordered a Tundra with the 600EFI engine. He also has a Turbo Nytro but with the closed trails in our area we found a whole new enjoyable sledding experience through the swamps and bush. Think at $9699 this sled is a bargain

soooooooooo, What is everyone ordering for 2022

True enough. Still it's no secret. Should be published by ofsc once a year to all permit holders.

Close enough, although the distance from Top D/Wawa 5 intersection to Halfway is suspect. That stretch on my last three sleds has always been closer to 90 km, maybe 95 (when every map I have used has called it much further), but all the other distances have agreed with my sled. I think that is where some others have come up with 225 to 235 for Wawa to Chapleau. But as 1049, Turbo Doo and others have stated, it isn't fuel for sleds that makes HH a critical fixture. There's all of the grooming logistics, food, shelter and safety considerations that are even more important. Newer sleds almost all

A friend in his fifties recently bought a new Ram pick-up on the 0 percent interest for 7 years promo. The truck could have been had for almost $7K less if cash were payed. But its not just the interest that is problematic, its that all debt, at least in theory has to be re-payed at some time. If you can't pay outright for your toys in your prime income earning years, when the hell are you to pay off all your toy debt? In the same time frame as that new Ram was bought, I bought a 1 year old Ram with 17K km, a 3 year old sled with 2000 km and a 5 year old beauty of a motorcycle with under 8000k

I put on the most amount of KM I ever have. Almost 4000 between 2 sleds, and always from my driveway in D9 and D5. Almost all within my Health unit also.

It does not seem to me that the owners have widely advertised the position or its responsibilities - nothing in any of the internet job sites that I can find. I believe the last two managers were hired from the U.S. (could be wrong about that admittedly) Despite the trail closures etc. the optics aren't good for any government help given the broader needs of society currently. Just blue skying here but here's a potential solution.....the Lesters hand over the OFSC publicity contract they have to Craig Nicholson and spouse and completely divest themselves from any OFSC involvement.

I have never even asked or received my expenses not even for travel hotels or convention. That being said I do not depend on an hourly wage for my living and doing this is my way of giving back to the sport. I strongly dis agree with this as grooming funding comes from the district not the club and I have known many great club presidents that have done a great job of grooming

Nothing, spent all my cash on a 2021 Polaris 850 SKS 146" in Dec last year and put over 3000k on it.

I can agree with that...however I don't think it's really an issue. Groomer operators in my district have had static pay for as long as I can remember. $17/hr during the day, $19/hr at night. Most of the operators I know have heavy equipment jobs and background, and/or are small business owners. I make quite a bit more at my other endeavors. None I know do it for the money, we usually take a financial hit, not to mention the missed family and riding opportunities, so riders can enjoy the sport we all love.

Is the club or district paying for the work? I get the feeling that some of you are upset about this. Try looking @ it another way. For years the average (read uninformed) snowmobiler has felt that the bureaucracy of the OFSC is an old boys club/business done behind closed doors/people lining their pockets operation... When these same people hear that certain executive members are getting paid (w/o knowing why) that's when the rumours arise.

As the old saying goes, if one has enough concern over such numbers then they should have enough concern to be involved with their local club at some capacity, where they will be able to see all those numbers.

Why this info can't be made public season after season is beyond me. I know some seasons it's released in a pie graph or something like that, but what's the issue.

White River doesnt even have a club at all. Craig Colbourne of the Marathon club, is the driving force in the area to get these trails back up, connected and running. the marathon club opened, groomed, maintained trail from marathon, to Dubreuilville's turn around with White River, with only help from Jeremy and Cynthia at the Fishing moose lodge on Hammer lake (the former H&C lodge on hwy 17). that has been in place for several years but, logging, time, manpower, funds, prevent it from opening up regularly. this year, he and his group of volunteers in Manitouwadge opened the t

I'll have to be a back of the pack guy LOL. It's nice that the two up seat and box come off quickly as well. Pop those off and hit the trails. My daughter is old enough now for me to take her on short trail rides to see how she likes it. I'll take both of them on it when we groom the trails around the property. I will also volunteer my services to Nunz for getting trails packed this coming winter. I'm actually pretty pumped to get this sled.

I know I know. It is a sled that I said I would never own in my life time. My XCR was useless for taking the kids or towing. I"ll be able to groom trails on the property with it and take the kids with me while I do that. Once they are old enough, I'll be back on a normal sled.

Lol. I've had sleds that I should have left on the side of the trail and collected the insurance money....but they were such turds no sledder with a brain would take it. For example, no one with a 900 fusion ever needed theft insurance.

What's your spouse say about that? As I understand from a previous post on here, she is a high school principal? No? Maybe you could be a guest lecturer.. As per Muskoka 1 - other than a rudimentary outline of personal finance concepts, unless the kid has got a part-time job and is handling his/her own money, the information usually goes in one ear and out the other. Most figure they will count on their rap music careers for a good living, and leave the financial end to an accountant. Telling them the tragic tale of MC Hammer didn't work either. What I found most usefu

A few days later you went to get it? You shouldn't be surprised it's gone. Post some pics - but it's been parted out long ago.

I sure hope we can back up there next winter. Rode the UP for the first time in about 6 seasons last year. Enjoyed it but Northern Ontario is where it's at for me.

It was 911 and mainly US department of homeland security rules that got us to a point where passports are needed. Once covid ends I suspect you will see a big push from OFSC to market state side. It was in the plans before Covid hit. That said the rules at the border will not change to allow more touring snowmobilers to enter with less hassle. Just the world we are in. Add needing proof of immunization to the list of needed docs that will be coming. I personally welcome the US sledders. That said the system here will survive with or without them.

The projects taking place always come first as does the economic engines of the areas. They have left roads and bridges that were easily utilized by the trail system, but as ski points out are taken back as needed without debate. Some modifications also seem to be removed or destroyed in the name of the ecosystem or to remove possible liabilities of use. The wood rights went back to Hornepayne and there have been multiple road building projects to access the wood resources north of Dub. The roads run from Dub and can connect logging to the mills in the west and all the way up to

I doo agree that is likely the case, but others have used the term "can't", and that simply is not the case. I rode that trail for 3 years before Halfway was there. Purty sure that it was Dec '99 when they opened originally, and I was of the first group/night of customers. (Should have been there the night before, but we slept in the bush that night) It was a groomed trail when we started riding it in March 97. (although it was under 18" of fresh snow from the day before - but it had been groomed anyhow) I just ass _u_me that the groomers had a lot of j

Thanks for all great years half way! Hopefully we will meet again! Cheers

Yes I agree everyone should experience this area . The last few years this has become my home turf with no snow close to home I really hope someone comes up with a solution because once it’s gone it will be very hard get it back

I think it’s 227 from Wawa to Chapleau. It’s sad but I don’t see how this trail will remain open with out Halfway. Most times the groomer operators sleep at halfway and pick up fuel very tuff terrain to open up

This is not good at all, but I'm also not surprised. Not sure how they could stay afloat after the past 14 months. We've been riding that area pretty much exclusively since Sean reopened it. Coming up from Indiana it's not much further than the UP and the riding is incredible up there. We start in Searchmont typically and head all sorts of directions from there but typically go through Halfway Haven at least once. It won't be worth it to drive the extra distance up to Wawa, plus if there is weather, that's not the best road to be on. I sure hope there's a way forward f

The last time I did that run is when the old trail was still there that went to Missinabie. Maybe they will have no choice to but to try and re-open that trail?

Don't forget these were the same guys that whined for years about the 'doo RV motors using a primer for starting... Those of us that had them knew the drill & could start them in our sleep.

Just because someone does something wrong doesn't mean it's OK however, like your response that has nothing to do with the questionbeing asked.

Too make sure it was gone before going back! Similar to posting a month later that it’s missing.

Ya I hear you. No payments here. I got a red plastic Ferrari too mine doesn't have that many miles on it though

A new financial advisor

Windshield-mounted mirrors are my strong preference...better viewing angle, IMO.

Talk about sucking the life out of new sled / toy ownership..... lol

Everybody is different. I am also a person who believes you need to have the money to play - but there is people who have a different take on that even. I know lots of people who have every single toy imagineable - they make their monthly payments and guess what - they can afford to do that - so they get to enjoy life that way - it works for them. Financial security is nice idea -and you should strive for it - but I wouldn't miss out on things in life because you can't "pay in cash" for it - you'll die one day - and hopefully be very old - but I have seen WAY too many pe

You will not get rich grooming, trust me

Stopped by the dealer today and they loaded up a 21 REN X for me. @Willy Just as you and Usedtoskidoo say, fits (at least in my 10ft clam shell, which is a drive on drive off trailer (plates which mount the clam to the trailer appear modified). Snug fit, but fits. Looks like I'll go the the Super Clamp Rear for the back end, but otherwise GTG. With the windshields coming off that easily, I'll get my son to sew up some bags for mine and my buddy's windshield when removed from the sled.

I see no windshields?.

Pay rates are recommended by the grooming committee then voted on at the district board level, if club rep on district board is a paid groomer operator then must recuse themselves from the vote.

Carry a spare Dess Key in my jacket. Needed it once. Also wanted to mention about the tools that are stored on the outside of the clutch cover. Always thought it was a bad idea, so I’ve kept them in the glovebox. Saw the evidence at a repair shop a month ago what happens when tool drops off the cover. The torsion spring adjustment tool feel off, bounced up into the primary clutch and you can imagine the damage. Just a heads up to all current Doo owners and new owners. You might want to keep the tools somewhere else.

A little improvement tonight. W/ the dual accessory adapter installed, only the small gas caddy would fit in the forward position. A spacer is necessary to carry the 'short' bag in the forward position...

Many have been going from Black Creek to Chapleau via Halfway Haven and I think I made that trip faster than the old direct F trail. All it did was hook the two in a better way. I took Toll Creek Road usually to save a few hours since it was shorter and no need to go out of the way to Halfway Haven.

Yes, 2 pumps, leave the primer out to give it 1 more squirt when it started & you were good to go. If these guys were the self-proclaimed 'experts', it shouldn't have been all that difficult...

You mean a snowmobile can go off trail without a 3” paddle and turbo? I had a buddy growing up with a Tundra Long Track. 300cc I think. Go just about anywhere without a 3 foot deep trench. I mean you could follow in it’s tracks.