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36 minutes ago, UsedtoSkidoo said:

hen add the number 8 beds they say are available that means that they are well below 50%.

And yet the same website you quoted ( Status of Cases in WDG | WDG Public Health ) states that the intensive care occupancy 7 day moving average as of Monday January11/21 is  86.8%.   It should also be noted that WDG health includes more hospitals than were named in the news report I wrote about (10 total I believe) and all those hospitals may or may not keep Covid patients on an ongoing basis. Who's right?

 

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5 hours ago, 02Sled said:

I am out of likes for today so... well said... just like Horvath who criticised everything from day one but hasn't offered up one single alternative solution

Thank you 02, no need for likes. This entire situation is not a "like" one. Is there an F'in sucks emoji you can share? Everyone has their options, my opinion is not to listen to side line coaches in any situation. Oh wait I just did, damn spider got me; work, life, relationships or COVID I do not wish for such people.

 

I know I am frustrated, fatigued, unrest; miss my daughter, my friends. However I would miss them way more if COVID took them or even placed them in a crisis situation. I do my part; mask, clean hands, keep my distance and too my bubble. I listen to what the government says then work their rules of the game into my daily life.  I do this without judgement or prejudice but with a clear understanding so I may go about life best as possible.

 

It sucks not to ride where I want or who I want to ride with. But damn!!! it felt good to squeeze the throttle on the lake where I live.

 

In the meantime....keep safe

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5 hours ago, Yukon said:

 Waste or pro-active approach? I believe we are going to see the need for it shortly. Better than reacting to it to late. Like we are seeing...

Pro active is right!  Fyi its 73 beds in there.

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5 hours ago, UsedtoSkidoo said:

Jospeh brant has 12 active covid cases, in that facility alone its a 73 bed facility. How are we nearing (checks notes) a scary tipping point?

How aren't we at a tipping point? 

 

There is not enough staff for this, nurses are overwhelmed hospitals are overwhelmed.  They are going to have to make decisions soon on who lives and who dies. People that are needing surgeries are being put off due to lack of resources due to lack of doctors, beds etc.

 

 

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Why are professional sports teams not required to wear masks of some sort?  They are far from social Distancing.  They are huffing and puffing on each other!

 

Full face shield?

 

Cloth mask?

 

They want to get everyone on board then have the big sports stars endorse the rules.  The people who are idolized need to set examples not be exceptions.  

 

Do do you think kids will take social distancing serious when the big stars don’t?

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10 minutes ago, Sksman said:

Why are professional sports teams not required to wear masks of some sort?  They are far from social Distancing.  They are huffing and puffing on each other!

 

Full face shield?

 

Cloth mask?

 

They want to get everyone on board then have the big sports stars endorse the rules.  The people who are idolized need to set examples not be exceptions.  

 

Do do you think kids will take social distancing serious when the big stars don’t?

Most of them are on a strict testing cycle of once per day. One of the ladies who is doing testing at my work now mentioned she was testing all the maple leaf players in the previous nhl bubble everyday.

 

test is apparently 98% accurate - so “risk” of any transmittal is “low” - though I agree doesn’t look good for others to look at/emulate.


 

 

 

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Just now, ecarnell said:

Most of them are on a strict testing cycle of once per day. One of the ladies who is doing testing at my work now mentioned she was testing all the maple leaf players in the previous nhl bubble everyday.

 

test is apparently 98% accurate - so “risk” of any transmittal is “low” - though I agree doesn’t look good for others to look at/emulate.


 

 

 

To me it doesn’t matter if they are tested hourly.

 

Are they all living in a bubble?  No.  

 

It’s all about Optics.   

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19 minutes ago, Sksman said:

Why are professional sports teams not required to wear masks of some sort?  They are far from social Distancing.  They are huffing and puffing on each other!

 

Full face shield?

 

Cloth mask?

 

They want to get everyone on board then have the big sports stars endorse the rules.  The people who are idolized need to set examples not be exceptions.  

 

Do do you think kids will take social distancing serious when the big stars don’t?

Cause they are tested daily and you can not perform at that level with masks on.

glad they are not wearing them.

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4 minutes ago, Sksman said:

To me it doesn’t matter if they are tested hourly.

 

Are they all living in a bubble?  No.  

 

It’s all about Optics.   

Sort of bubbled, they have tougher restrictions than we do.

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7 minutes ago, Spiderman said:

Cause they are tested daily and you can not perform at that level with masks on.

glad they are not wearing them.

At this stage it’s not about how well you can do your job wearing a mask is it?    There are a lot of people forced into wearing masks whose performance maybe reduced or are uncomfortable wearing a mask at work.   

 

Either we are all in this together or we are not!  

 

Professional sports is not a essential service.  They are not necessary. They can wear masks as an example or don’t play!    

 

Or do we give exemptions to everyone?  Or just the rich?   Or the politicians?   

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21 minutes ago, Sksman said:

At this stage it’s not about how well you can do your job wearing a mask is it?    There are a lot of people forced into wearing masks whose performance maybe reduced or are uncomfortable wearing a mask at work.   

 

Either we are all in this together or we are not!  

 

Professional sports is not a essential service.  They are not necessary. They can wear masks as an example or don’t play!    

 

Or do we give exemptions to everyone?  Or just the rich?   Or the politicians?   

If I own the team and pay you 8 million a season, you bet it is. I want wins, I want performance, take the cloth of your face.

if your employer has chosen to force you to wear a mask, they made that call, you have rights and you have options.

we have never been in this all together, it's a nice tag line, but it's never been true and never will be

i am glad professional sports are going, it's time to return to normal, they are as necessary as anyone working and they can also not wear masks and lead by example how other efforts can be successful.

 

 

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The winter is tough enough.....we need hockey for our sanity. They are testing very tightly and with protocols.  And league paying for it.   Im glad they are playing !!! 

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29 minutes ago, Spiderman said:

If I own the team and pay you 8 million a season, you bet it is. I want wins, I want performance, take the cloth of your face.

if your employer has chosen to force you to wear a mask, they made that call, you have rights and you have options.

we have never been in this all together, it's a nice tag line, but it's never been true and never will be

i am glad professional sports are going, it's time to return to normal, they are as necessary as anyone working and they can also not wear masks and lead by example how other efforts can be successful.

 

 

So it’s all about profit and money yet a restaurant can’t open for willing customers?   

 

A construction crew installing utility lines outside were fined $800/man this week.  6 guys all fined by ministry of labour.  Not one  of the guys  had a issue with the distances they were working at.  All being paid what they accepted for their job.   

And their employer was making the money they wanted.   All profiting.   But all fined!   Why?

 

What’s the difference?  You said it’s not an issue if my employer doesn’t mandate a mask.

 

We better shutdown Most of our economy for safety and better good of all citizens but  the rich role models can play professional sports and teach all their fans not to social distance and not to worry about being close to each other.   

 

Its not not about how good they can or cannot play the game it’s about educating those to young or those Not capable of grasping or understanding  the concepts of social distancing.

 

A lot of people will never buy into things if politicians and sports stars live by different standards.

 

 

 

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Try travelling with a sled trailer. Beacon to the cops to pull you over. Non essential travel. Results probably in a ticket. 

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8 minutes ago, GrizzlyGriff said:

Try travelling with a sled trailer. Beacon to the cops to pull you over. Non essential travel. Results probably in a ticket. 

Travel is permitted.......read the regulation update.

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it is so confusing. snowmobiling is permitted , no question asked; however, traveling from your area to another is not 

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Just now, zoso said:

Travel within Ontario

  • Stay home. Travel outside your region should be limited to only essential purposes

Which is snowmobiling.

If you look further into the orders short term rentals are out as well which cancels any overnight trips.

Cochrane is a little far to drive for a day trip.

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14 minutes ago, Spiderman said:

Travel is permitted.......read the regulation update.

Can you please post it so that we can read it. I  googled but couldn't find what you are talking about. Thanks in advance.

 

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https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021-01-13.pdf

 

Says you can leave your house and travel for exercise, including items open ( snowmobiling )

nothing here about distances, etc. 

that said, could be in the rules for stage 1, which I would have to go and read.

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1 hour ago, Sksman said:

A construction crew installing utility lines outside were fined $800/man this week.  6 guys all fined by ministry of labour.  Not one  of the guys  had a issue with the distances they were working at.  All being paid what they accepted for their job.   

And their employer was making the money they wanted.   All profiting.   But all fined!   Why?

Do you have more info on why they were fined?

Either there is more to the story or something does not add up......or fines being issued that should not be, not a huge surprise....

 

57 minutes ago, GrizzlyGriff said:

Try travelling with a sled trailer. Beacon to the cops to pull you over. Non essential travel. Results probably in a ticket. 

There seems to be a gray area for sure in all of this, for now......

Driving alone or in your bubble to ride a sled outdoors and no places to eat inside, really has very little risk and no reason not to allow it.....but we will see.

 

As for fines, we all know there will be fines issued, no doubt about that, we also know with the the past lock downs and now this one, the court system is already even more behind than they already were.

I suspect most people who might get fined will opt to fight in court, at least they should be IMO, which I have a hard time believing many of them will make it to court given the above - but that is just my initial thoughts on this.

Case and point is the vehicle stickers and the notice that was issued that people did not need to renew during these difficult times, but yet police still issued tickets due to lack of being kept informed, that unless you just paid the fine, that had no business being issued in the first place, would have ended up not needing to be paid.

I even thought there was something reported to the effect of a judge basically telling the police services to smarten up and not waste already precious time for the incidents that this surrounded this. 

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I read the stage 1, says nothing about travelling.

 

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/200082

 

that language maybe is in the "grey lockdown" wording, but we aren't in that anymore, Ford re-implemented the Emergency Act, so that is the ruling regulation, what I see, as it's written, I can drive anywhere for my essential exercise.

 

cheers

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11 minutes ago, Spiderman said:

https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021-01-13.pdf

 

Says you can leave your house and travel for exercise, including items open ( snowmobiling )

nothing here about distances, etc. 

that said, could be in the rules for stage 1, which I would have to go and read.

 

3 minutes ago, Spiderman said:

I read the stage 1, says nothing about travelling.

 

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/200082

 

that language maybe is in the "grey lockdown" wording, but we aren't in that anymore, Ford re-implemented the Emergency Act, so that is the ruling regulation, what I see, as it's written, I can drive anywhere for my essential exercise.

 

cheers

You are a good man, Spidy! :right_on:

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1 hour ago, stoney said:

Do you have more info on why they were fined?

Either there is more to the story or something does not add up......or fines being issued that should not be, not a huge surprise....

 

There seems to be a gray area for sure in all of this, for now......

Driving alone or in your bubble to ride a sled outdoors and no places to eat inside, really has very little risk and no reason not to allow it.....but we will see.

 

@stoney You've probably already seen this,:

 

My post over @ FS:

 

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After reading the posts, I was talking to the neighbour at our woodlot on Sat' & said that I'd had the sled out on the property. 

Neighbour: Did you hear what happened in Tweed?

Me (expecting news of a sledding fatality): No was there an accident?

Neighbour: No apparently they're fining and turning people around with snowmobile trailers.

Me: I'm not sure if that's legit or not (and I told him what you had said.

I'm guessing Tweed is in you territory Sean? This is getting really stupid. A lot of these 'I heard it from a cousin who's friend told him he saw it on Faceplant' stories...

Turns out the OPP officer over there was on duty & no tickets were handed out.

 

On the bold, X 1,000,000

 

 

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