Strong Farmer Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 At what age did some of you folks start your children, grandchildren on a regular mini z, 120 cc? Thanks better to buy old school one or some of newer models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMSOMAIR Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 Bought a 1989 SnoScoot for my daughter when she was 2 1/2 years old. she started on it when she was around 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 25, 2024 Author Share Posted July 25, 2024 2 hours ago, RAMSOMAIR said: Bought a 1989 SnoScoot for my daughter when she was 2 1/2 years old. she started on it when she was around 4. Nice. I been looking at mini z's. They are pretty nice and simple, well older ones anyways. No sense buying anying too good, it be into ditch and trees no doubt 😎. Have to learn some how I suppose. Teather kill switch cord is a must I think! I think I just pick up somthing decent that still works. It's not leaving our property anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signfan Posted July 25, 2024 Share Posted July 25, 2024 4 for a mini z. Younger for a kitty kat. By 7 or 8 they will outgrow the mini z. I've been debating going to a sno skoot or a small sled. My boys have been fine on the full size sled though so probably won't. Just spent the $50 for a kids key for the 900 ace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 My 2 grandsons will be 2 this coming winter. I have a Kitty Cat I'm thinking of converting to electric and figure they will be riding it next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamadan700 Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 I bought a 71 Motoski Mini-Sno for my kids when they were, I believe, 4 and 6. Cool little sled that would stay on top of deep snow even with me on it! Had a decent top speed around 40mph. It didn't "braap" but rather it had a long deep groan...lol... The kids learned well on it as you needed to add some body language to make it steer. They moved up to a 300 Enticer a few years after that. Enticer is still kicking around 20 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 We had 2 120 Cats: 1st one was used - 2nd one we bought brand new My son started on them at age 4 We then went to a 340 Indy Lite, then to a Polaris EVO, and now onto a Sport 550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 26, 2024 Author Share Posted July 26, 2024 21 hours ago, Blackstar said: My 2 grandsons will be 2 this coming winter. I have a Kitty Cat I'm thinking of converting to electric and figure they will be riding it next year. You want to rent it out this winter before you tear it apart 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted July 26, 2024 Share Posted July 26, 2024 29 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said: You want to rent it out this winter before you tear it apart 🤔 You think you could handle the power? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 26, 2024 Author Share Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: You think you could handle the power? Not for me it's for baby shriek. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Strong Farmer said: You want to rent it out this winter before you tear it apart 🤔 It runs but low on compression. Its a '73 so its got the Kawasaki motor with Kikaki carb. Everything I read says its a tough rebuild. They don't make the pistons and rings so you have to make shift.....🥴 That's why I'm thinking about going electric conversion. Then no carb.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 27, 2024 Author Share Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: It runs but low on compression. Its a '73 so its got the Kawasaki motor with Kikaki carb. Everything I read says its a tough rebuild. They don't make the pistons and rings so you have to make shift.....🥴 That's why I'm thinking about going electric conversion. Then no carb.....lol Take it out and take it to Jeff at nh cycle. He can rebuild it some how I bet. He's very good at engines. Lots just slap in a Honda gx motor it seems too 🤷🏽♂️. Nothing runs like that orginal two stroke motor. How much did that one run you. Some are asking up to 3k for these things last made in 1998 or so I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 27, 2024 Author Share Posted July 27, 2024 22 hours ago, Spiderman said: We had 2 120 Cats: 1st one was used - 2nd one we bought brand new My son started on them at age 4 We then went to a 340 Indy Lite, then to a Polaris EVO, and now onto a Sport 550 Ok thanks. From what I am reading 120 is way to go but not for super young kids like you said. Kitty cat gets stuck easy, can't seeing that being a big problem in 3 or 4" inches of snow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 Grandson was 3 and a half when we gave him this for Christmas. With careful instruction he was able to ride it with us beside him, a bit young but no major incidents. He is a bit of a gear-head, like his dad and grandpa. If you buy a used one make sure it doesn't have a performance kit in it, really speeds it up and would be too fast for a beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 28, 2024 Author Share Posted July 28, 2024 23 hours ago, oldslowsledder said: Grandson was 3 and a half when we gave him this for Christmas. With careful instruction he was able to ride it with us beside him, a bit young but no major incidents. He is a bit of a gear-head, like his dad and grandpa. If you buy a used one make sure it doesn't have a performance kit in it, really speeds it up and would be too fast for a beginner. Why do people do that. Wouldn't it be cheaper to sell it and buy a 200 cc sled? nicr looking sleds though. How long before you part with that one? Do you carry any liability insurance on it or is that impossible to find? My plan was just to use it on my property, since trail and hailburton forest is off limits for sure. Maybe a cottage rental on a quiet lake would be a fun place to ride it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 The sled tops out at 8mph from the factory, perfect for beginners, but after a year or so is a bit slow. Adding a performance kit is a great filler between the 120 and 200, we did it last year and it was perfect for his skill level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 28, 2024 Author Share Posted July 28, 2024 4 hours ago, oldslowsledder said: The sled tops out at 8mph from the factory, perfect for beginners, but after a year or so is a bit slow. Adding a performance kit is a great filler between the 120 and 200, we did it last year and it was perfect for his skill level How fast it go with kit in it and how much was upgrade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 My buddy has now installed performance kits on both his kids 120s. He is a gear head and his kids sleds are quick. Around 40kmh on the faster one. 3 time stock speed. they started riding them around 2 1/2 years old. Stock. Yup they hit stuff. Picnic table. Sheds. But it is what it is. They are outside all weekend and every night riding. as for a 120vs 200. The new 200 were almost $7000 I believe during covid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 7 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: How fast it go with kit in it and how much was upgrade? There's different levels of upgrades, we picked a lower version, simple install and doubled the speed. Have the receipt somewhere, think it was around $150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 On 7/27/2024 at 7:55 AM, Strong Farmer said: Ok thanks. From what I am reading 120 is way to go but not for super young kids like you said. Kitty cat gets stuck easy, can't seeing that being a big problem in 3 or 4" inches of snow though. The 120 was great on hard pack, and good in relatively minor snow. they will all get stuck in "real" snow - they're so light and only have so much jam. My son primarily rode them in a field and out on the lake - lots of room to get to know how to use it and not hit anything in the process I will add we made money on the used one and came very close to break even on selling the brand new one we bought - got more than our money's worth and my son had a blast on them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/26/2024 at 10:15 PM, Strong Farmer said: Take it out and take it to Jeff at nh cycle. He can rebuild it some how I bet. He's very good at engines. Lots just slap in a Honda gx motor it seems too 🤷🏽♂️. Nothing runs like that orginal two stroke motor. How much did that one run you. Some are asking up to 3k for these things last made in 1998 or so I believe. I paid $700 for it. I shot some gas in the carb and pulled it over, it barked so I figured it needed carb work. It needs a carb and the compression is low so.... Most people do a 79cc Predator swap. Same as a 79cc Power Fist motor from Princess Auto. Olsen Brothers has a website with all the parts to do the swap. Engine mount plate, gearing and clutch. You have to make your own exhaust. Help can be had on Facebook (Kitty Cat Snowmobiles group). There are guys out there reproducing the obsolete parts. Hoods, windshields, tracks, etc. Pretty tough to find a decent running/looking Kitty for under $2k. Virtually every kitty has a bent front bumper, missing windshield and a cracked hood.....lol. Nice stuff goes for $2500-$3k. I've seen some listed for $4500-6000 for museum pieces. Take a trip to the US and you'll find nice units for $1500. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Selection seems thin here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 9 hours ago, Blackstar said: I paid $700 for it. I shot some gas in the carb and pulled it over, it barked so I figured it needed carb work. It needs a carb and the compression is low so.... Most people do a 79cc Predator swap. Same as a 79cc Power Fist motor from Princess Auto. Olsen Brothers has a website with all the parts to do the swap. Engine mount plate, gearing and clutch. You have to make your own exhaust. Help can be had on Facebook (Kitty Cat Snowmobiles group). There are guys out there reproducing the obsolete parts. Hoods, windshields, tracks, etc. Pretty tough to find a decent running/looking Kitty for under $2k. Virtually every kitty has a bent front bumper, missing windshield and a cracked hood.....lol. Nice stuff goes for $2500-$3k. I've seen some listed for $4500-6000 for museum pieces. Take a trip to the US and you'll find nice units for $1500. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Selection seems thin here. I been noticing same. Always see not used much over the years, missing windshield, bumper bent etc. Some owners even have a spare hood. Give juniour ducked taped one and then switch it to sell latter 🤣. If it runs drives, stops worth 1500 to 2400 ish tops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 All this Kitty talk got me looking and look I found in the barn LoL. Going on the display shelf in the new shop 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted August 2, 2024 Author Share Posted August 2, 2024 38 minutes ago, volunteer2 said: All this Kitty talk got me looking and look I found in the barn LoL. Going on the display shelf in the new shop Does it run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: Does it run? No, he doesn't want to sell it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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