Spiderman Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 15 hours ago, oldslowsledder said: Just surfing a Barrie dealer, they have 2 Ski Doo 850 Turbo's, 3-4000 km range for 15,999.00. Wow, 2 years old and basically 50% of new. Brutal depreciation, guess no one wants to chance a used Turbo. Most people that buy them, buy them for a reason and to ride them a certain way. I wouldn't buy one used personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyr Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Most dealers that I know are finding that a turbo isnt worth any more than an NA version when you go to sell them used. Polaris BOOSTs are depreciating even worse by the looks of things. There has to be a big difference in price as all those 24s are now out of warranty and a new 26 has 4 years of coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledguy74 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I would think any 2-stroke turbo would lose its value quickly. race rocket riders who buy them, and a shorter life span 2-stroke engine. its a toy, not an investment. As for investments, I'd much rather risk the ups and downs of the market instead of having cash stuffed in a mattress that depreciates in buying power every year thanks to inflation. If your savings are not growing equal to the inflation rate you're losing money. That being said, buying stocks without understanding what you're actually buying is called gambling, not investing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 hours ago, Sledguy74 said: That being said, buying stocks without understanding what you're actually buying is called gambling, not investing. That would be me....and I no longer gamble. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Most guys I know bought turbo's and immediately went to work making them straight line sleds. The tinkering is the fun part, the thrill is short lived. It's like a jet ski on an inland lake. It's fun for about 10 minutes. This on the other hand, looks fun. Trust you pilot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 22 hours ago, scottyr said: Most dealers that I know are finding that a turbo isnt worth any more than an NA version when you go to sell them used. Polaris BOOSTs are depreciating even worse by the looks of things. There has to be a big difference in price as all those 24s are now out of warranty and a new 26 has 4 years of coverage. Polaris only offered 3 year warranty. All deprecating don't matter what it is. I priced out a new 26, but bought same sled for about half cost of a new one with 1800 km's on it. I think I just keep buying low km 2 to 3 year old sleds and trade every couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: Polaris only offered 3 year warranty. All deprecating don't matter what it is. I priced out a new 26, but bought same sled for about half cost of a new one with 1800 km's on it. I think I just keep buying low km 2 to 3 year old sleds and trade every couple of years. Best way to go for me just because I turn my own wrenches. When I'm ready to buy I'm also ready to go pick one up as soon as I make contact with the seller. Find the best deal, be there first with cash, negotiate and get a bill of sale for a couple grand saying "as-where is". Now your another grand ahead of the game. I do this every year and sell before the end of the season. If I still want to ride I jump on the ol' back up sled. Most years I can recover my expenses completely and had fun with a different sled each season. The grand saved pays for pre season maintenance, trail pass insurance and even fuel if you get a good deal on purchase price. Every year I tell my wife I'm done with sleds but as summer goes by I forget the pain they cause me. lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 34 minutes ago, 95rxl650 said: Best way to go for me just because I turn my own wrenches. When I'm ready to buy I'm also ready to go pick one up as soon as I make contact with the seller. Find the best deal, be there first with cash, negotiate and get a bill of sale for a couple grand saying "as-where is". Now your another grand ahead of the game. I do this every year and sell before the end of the season. If I still want to ride I jump on the ol' back up sled. Most years I can recover my expenses completely and had fun with a different sled each season. The grand saved pays for pre season maintenance, trail pass insurance and even fuel if you get a good deal on purchase price. Every year I tell my wife I'm done with sleds but as summer goes by I forget the pain they cause me. lol I always ask to take word snowmobile out and put in chicken feed instead. No one seems to mind. Now it's a complete write off. Couldn't do that this time from dealer though shucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 The slight of hand by the powers that be make me sick. more so now with all the attention on spending waste. Water, sewage and waste management were all part of property taxes years ago. Someone announced property taxes were not going up one year and we suddenly had water meters and bag tags to pay for. And how the heck does it cost more for delivery of gas and electricity than the actual cost of what we use?? Isnt that like a woman wanting to be compensated for time, cloths and makeup to show up for a date?? WTF I like my bacon crisp, not burnt. My bacon seems to be burnt alot lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 hours ago, 95rxl650 said: The slight of hand by the powers that be make me sick. more so now with all the attention on spending waste. Water, sewage and waste management were all part of property taxes years ago. Someone announced property taxes were not going up one year and we suddenly had water meters and bag tags to pay for. And how the heck does it cost more for delivery of gas and electricity than the actual cost of what we use?? Isnt that like a woman wanting to be compensated for time, cloths and makeup to show up for a date?? WTF I like my bacon crisp, not burnt. My bacon seems to be burnt alot lately. All I know is money going out fast. Do what I did turn your house into an and b unit and get double free garbage limit 😀. I out smarted them on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 hours ago, 95rxl650 said: The slight of hand by the powers that be make me sick. more so now with all the attention on spending waste. Water, sewage and waste management were all part of property taxes years ago. Someone announced property taxes were not going up one year and we suddenly had water meters and bag tags to pay for. And how the heck does it cost more for delivery of gas and electricity than the actual cost of what we use?? Isnt that like a woman wanting to be compensated for time, cloths and makeup to show up for a date?? WTF I like my bacon crisp, not burnt. My bacon seems to be burnt alot lately. We got warnings here 6-7 years ago that costs for delivery would be increasing drastically due to rising cost to rebuild the infrastructure based on demands being placed on an aging system. And what has happened to those costs in the last 5 years? Got to pay to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 17 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: All I know is money going out fast. Do what I did turn your house into an and b unit and get double free garbage limit 😀. I out smarted them on that one My house has always been a duplex. It gave all our kids their first taste of independence while having a safety net. It started off with a limited number of free bag tags but that vanished quickly. No more freebies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 hours ago, Blackstar said: We got warnings here 6-7 years ago that costs for delivery would be increasing drastically due to rising cost to rebuild the infrastructure based on demands being placed on an aging system. And what has happened to those costs in the last 5 years? Got to pay to play. I get it, but it still burns alittle when it costs $50 to use $20. Car washes are pissing me off lately too. $5 to start and the soap doesnt flow for the first half of the cycle. By the time it does you have just enough time to add another $5 to rinse. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 hours ago, 95rxl650 said: I get it, but it still burns alittle when it costs $50 to use $20. Car washes are pissing me off lately too. $5 to start and the soap doesnt flow for the first half of the cycle. By the time it does you have just enough time to add another $5 to rinse. lol I always put 8 in and race clock lol 😂 . Get bonus time that way, if you pay up front. My wife used card in one of those self washes, it wouldn't stop when she was done and added on a few more dollars to bill. We always use cash after that experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Not spectacular, but decent value https://aberfoylepowersports.com/New-Inventory/adid/37101410/2025-ARCTIC-CAT-ZR-600-129-SNO-PRO-ACS5-ES-HUGE-SAVINGS-Puslinch-ON/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 hours ago, Spiderman said: Not spectacular, but decent value https://aberfoylepowersports.com/New-Inventory/adid/37101410/2025-ARCTIC-CAT-ZR-600-129-SNO-PRO-ACS5-ES-HUGE-SAVINGS-Puslinch-ON/ Sounds like new units will be tarried coming in this fall, since it contains usa steel and aluminium. That might seem like a bargain if new ones jump 20 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signfan Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Here is what google ai spitts out to the question are snowmobiles usmca compliant. Lord knows rules are changing daily. Time will tell. Yes, snowmobiles can be USMCA compliant goods. Specifically, sub-heading 8703.10 (snowmobiles) in the USMCA rules of origin allows for an RVC (Regional Value Content) of 50 percent using the net cost method or 60 percent using the transaction value method, according to a commentary from the C.D. Howe Institute. This means that if a snowmobile is produced with a certain percentage of regional value content (from the US, Canada, or Mexico), it can qualify for duty-free treatment under USMCA. Elaboration: USMCA and Rules of Origin: The USMCA (United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement) is a free trade agreement that aims to eliminate or reduce trade barriers between the three countries. A key aspect of USMCA is the "rules of origin," which determine whether a product is considered to be originating from a USMCA party and therefore eligible for duty-free treatment. Regional Value Content (RVC): One of the primary ways a product can qualify under USMCA is by meeting the RVC requirements, which specify the percentage of a product's value that must be derived from within the USMCA region (US, Canada, Mexico) to be considered originating. Snowmobiles and RVC: For snowmobiles, specifically under sub-heading 8703.10, the RVC requirement is relatively lenient compared to other automotive products. Producers can either meet a 50% RVC using the net cost method or a 60% RVC using the transaction value method. Duty-Free Treatment: If a snowmobile meets the applicable RVC requirements, it is considered to be originating from a USMCA party and is eligible for duty-free treatment when exported to the other USMCA partners. BRP's Compliance: Bombardier Recreational Products (BRP), a major manufacturer of snowmobiles, has stated that the vast majority of their vehicles are produced in Canada and Mexico and are USMCA-compliant, meaning their shipments to the US are tariff-free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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