Turbo Doo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Hats off to the Clubs and volunteers. A ton of work each and every season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMSOMAIR Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I wonder how much of this may be caused by ATVs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, RAMSOMAIR said: I wonder how much of this may be caused by ATVs? That and SXS's possibly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMSOMAIR Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Yeah, them too. And it seems the snowmobile clubs have to foot the bill always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamadan700 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 We have a good relationship with KATVA and OF4WD and many times we share the cost/labour on mutually beneficial projects. Maybe they can reach out to the other user groups of those trails for assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 We have the same problems on some of our trails. The only ATV/SXS trail around is a railbed, the damaged trails are old road allowances, therefore there is no way the ATV club would assist with repairs. We have given up on spending time and money on repairs, just wait for more snow to open the trail up. Enough other stuff to do as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Such a tough spot for clubs and volunteers to be in, with regards to this, and alot of other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, UsedtoSkidoo said: One of the reasons I stopped riding ATV's they do so much environmental damage. Atv's dont do the damage, it all lies with the guy sitting on the seat holding the handlebars 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, UsedtoSkidoo said: One of the reasons I stopped riding ATV's they do so much environmental damage. I ride mine mainly on roads and hard packed trails and could care less for going through mud holes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I ride mine mainly on roads and hard packed trails and could care less for going through mud holes. 37 minutes ago, UsedtoSkidoo said: agreed but How many guys go nicely through mudholes.? Well, Arctic Crusher and me, make two, I'm sure there are many more of us out there as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, UsedtoSkidoo said: agreed but How many guys go nicely through mudholes.? Not making excuses but the riders are on legal trails. I could care less for mud holes and try my best to avoid them, we also have sledders riding reckless through private property. What's the solution? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: I ride mine mainly on roads and hard packed trails and could care less for going through mud holes. Same here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMSOMAIR Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Well the ATV-ers don’t seem to have to pay the same as sledders do. I’m close to a rail trail and lots of ATV traffic and not very many pay their way with a permit. Tearing the hell out of the rail bed and then the snowmobile club ends up forking out the funds to fix it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, RAMSOMAIR said: Well the ATV-ers don’t seem to have to pay the same as sledders do. I’m close to a rail trail and lots of ATV traffic and not very many pay their way with a permit. Tearing the hell out of the rail bed and then the snowmobile club ends up forking out the funds to fix it. Maybe the atvers should pay more. I support that 100% but atvs are not limited to groomed trails like sleds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F6 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 There is a lot worse sections of that trail. No big rocks in that at least. Groomable with snow! If the happy wanderers need anything, it is a new warm up hut and stove. Best early season trails in district 7 but the worst warm up hut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve F6 said: There is a lot worse sections of that trail. No big rocks in that at least. Groomable with snow! If the happy wanderers need anything, it is a new warm up hut and stove. Best early season trails in district 7 but the worst warm up hut. Lol… warm up shacks in southern Ontario j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I like the Happy Wanderers' warm up shack "The Irishman's Resting Place" on B Trail. Have stopped there a few times to crack open a thermos of hot chocolate or coffee. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Doo you haft'a be a Mick to be allowed in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re:Leaf Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Sean’s are allowed in, but Shawn’s are not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariof7 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Re:Leaf said: Sean’s are allowed in, but Shawn’s are not. I would concur 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Blake G said: I like the Happy Wanderers' warm up shack "The Irishman's Resting Place" on B Trail. Have stopped there a few times to crack open a thermos of hot chocolate or coffee. Is that named after the leprechaun on this forum by any chance? I knew he had a cabin some where around there. Now I know thanks 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burndog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 3:42 PM, ArcticCrusher said: Not making excuses but the riders are on legal trails. I could care less for mud holes and try my best to avoid them, we also have sledders riding reckless through private property. What's the solution? A lot of the same bunch, or for certain same "don't give a F" mindset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 We see this type of damage with our club. Sometimes its just optics, ! Logging in the area starts the process. Logging finishes, water sits, atvs come along and continues the degredation of trail. Snowmobile club comes in early fall, finds damage, blames the atvs, since they see 4 wheeler damage. The solution is tread lightly, lots of times atvs share trails with snowmobile clubs. All user groups need to work together towards a solution and a common goal. Blame and shame gets you nowhere! Work together, this is the inevitable solution... Personally I don't find spinning out in a mudhole full of loon shit to be fun.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Yukon said: We see this type of damage with our club. Sometimes its just optics, ! Logging in the area starts the process. Logging finishes, water sits, atvs come along and continues the degredation of trail. Snowmobile club comes in early fall, finds damage, blames the atvs, since they see 4 wheeler damage. The solution is tread lightly, lots of times atvs share trails with snowmobile clubs. All user groups need to work together towards a solution and a common goal. Blame and shame gets you nowhere! Work together, this is the inevitable solution... Personally I don't find spinning out in a mudhole full of loon crap to be fun.. LOL on the bold. There has always been a big dislike on both sides, but common ground must be found, now more so than ever before with the shrinking foot print each group is legally allowed to use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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