Quebec Permit Prices.

[Strong Farmer]

On 5/29/2024 at 9:14 AM, stoney said:

Oh no, toilet paper is in a category of it own.....those are bare essentials!

Hahaha I wonder were he went. Plc would  know 😎. 

[PISTON LAKE CRUISER]

1 hour ago, Strong Farmer said:

Hahaha I wonder were he went. Plc would  know 😎. 

I might if your statement made any frigging sense.

[Spiderman]

On 5/29/2024 at 9:57 PM, Strong Farmer said:

Roads are higher too. They really build them up today. 

I'm not an Engineer - but isn't that essentially the same thing?

 

[stoney]

2 hours ago, Spiderman said:

I'm not an Engineer - but isn't that essentially the same thing?

 

Higher road would equate to deeper roadside ditch for sure....simple math with or without an ENG abbreviation on your signature or that pinky ring.....lol.

 

I would say most, if not all municipalities have focused a lot more the last decade or so on cleaning/clearing out & in some cases deepening most drainage ditches then they ever did before.

 

[Spiderman]

52 minutes ago, stoney said:

Higher road would equate to deeper roadside ditch for sure....simple math with or without an ENG abbreviation on your signature or that pinky ring.....lol.

 

I would say most, if not all municipalities have focused a lot more the last decade or so on cleaning/clearing out & in some cases deepening most drainage ditches then they ever did before.

 

 

Litigation has prompted that.

Minimum Maintenance Standards exist.....

 

 

[scottyr]

4 hours ago, Spiderman said:

I'm not an Engineer - but isn't that essentially the same thing?

 

 

I was thinking the same thing.......  

[RAMSOMAIR]

Deeper ditches=harder crashes!

[Strong Farmer]

14 hours ago, RAMSOMAIR said:

Deeper ditches=harder crashes!

Culverts are bigger under drive ways too and more random cement culverts  to watch out for. I wouldn't ride a ditch I don't know, that's for sure. 

[stoney]

Well, if the ditch increases in size, so must the culvert to match the flow rate, otherwise Houston we have a problem…..

These adjustments in water drainage systems, aside from mitigating risks, is from what appears to be the extreme weather systems we have seen also in the last decade. 
Im not sure if we receive more precipitation, but it sure does come down in much larger amounts at once then I recall it ever used too on more frequent basis. 
 

[Spiderman]

On 6/1/2024 at 9:48 AM, stoney said:

Well, if the ditch increases in size, so must the culvert to match the flow rate, otherwise Houston we have a problem…..

These adjustments in water drainage systems, aside from mitigating risks, is from what appears to be the extreme weather systems we have seen also in the last decade. 
Im not sure if we receive more precipitation, but it sure does come down in much larger amounts at once then I recall it ever used too on more frequent basis. 
 

And that’s why neighborhood's with old infrastructure have sewer back-ups, systems were designed for average, not average in 1 hour storms.

[stoney]

6 hours ago, Spiderman said:

And that’s why neighborhood's with old infrastructure have sewer back-ups, systems were designed for average, not average in 1 hour storms.

Yep, been quite a few people put in bad situations with the old systems not able to support the new rates of increased precipitation coming down in much shorter windows!

[Sksman]

 

Pave over farm fields and water must run somewhere.

 

 

[stoney]

1 hour ago, Sksman said:

 

Pave over farm fields and water must run somewhere.

 

 

I would say the newer subdivisions where farm fields once were do a good job of managing water run off with the drainage ponds they incorporate into the design of the subdivisions.

Bigger issue is the older areas.

We have drainage ditches and the Holland River just down from us, when the sky opens up and dumps some water in short order, man does that river increase in size pretty quick.

Other areas like ours that is older, do not have that and the water must go somewhere. 

[PISTON LAKE CRUISER]

1 hour ago, stoney said:

I would say the newer subdivisions where farm fields once were do a good job of managing water run off with the drainage ponds they incorporate into the design of the subdivisions.

Bigger issue is the older areas.

We have drainage ditches and the Holland River just down from us, when the sky opens up and dumps some water in short order, man does that river increase in size pretty quick.

Other areas like ours that is older, do not have that and the water must go somewhere. 

 50 % or more farm crop fields in Ontario now have systematic drainage systems. Thats why the farmers can be working on them within 2-3 days of rain. The water is mover to a drainage ditch or creek in most cases.

[stoney]

33 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:

 50 % or more farm crop fields in Ontario now have systematic drainage systems. Thats why the farmers can be working on them within 2-3 days of rain. The water is mover to a drainage ditch or creek in most cases.

Yes, seen a lot more being installed last few years for sure. 
Can’t work a flooded field. 

[Spiderman]

40 minutes ago, stoney said:

Yes, seen a lot more being installed last few years for sure. 
Can’t work a flooded field. 

Can't ride it in the winter either!

 

[Sksman]

So who is planning on buying a Quebec permit?  
 

I am planning on a couple rides in QC   

[1049]

I will be buying 2 Quebec permits and probably 2 Ontario permits 

[Yamatario]

I will be purchasing 2 Ontario and 1 New Brunswick.

[scottyr]

Quebec permit ordered today.    

 

On the hook for 2 Ontario and 1 Quebec.    😭

[Strong Farmer]

With current weather it's hard to think about permits yet. I be getting one Ontario as usual.   

[T bird]

For the first time in my 22 years of buying a yearly permit, I find myself very hesitant to do so again. I am in the most southernly point of the trail system in D5….. for years I have supported and done whatever, wherever,

however to help my local club. The snow has been lacklustre to say the least in the last 5 yrs. As much as I love to load up and go for a day, wknd,midweek,

or week long trip!…. It’s just becoming too much of an expense. Gone are the days of me leaving w a crew from my doorstep and riding up to Exeter, Grand Bend, Goderich etc!! ….. not too mention a few stops at the ol grain bin Inn, for those of the Mitchell area!😉….. that seems to be my starting point anymore, and it hasn’t been the most pleasant in the few past years but I’ll take it!

[Strong Farmer]

1 hour ago, T bird said:

For the first time in my 22 years of buying a yearly permit, I find myself very hesitant to do so again. I am in the most southernly point of the trail system in D5….. for years I have supported and done whatever, wherever,

however to help my local club. The snow has been lacklustre to say the least in the last 5 yrs. As much as I love to load up and go for a day, wknd,midweek,

or week long trip!…. It’s just becoming too much of an expense. Gone are the days of me leaving w a crew from my doorstep and riding up to Exeter, Grand Bend, Goderich etc!! ….. not too mention a few stops at the ol grain bin Inn, for those of the Mitchell area!😉….. that seems to be my starting point anymore, and it hasn’t been the most pleasant in the few past years but I’ll take it!

I did that in 2020 turned out I rode about 8 weeks in d5 and d9 that year. Ended up buying one two day permit, then changed that into a full season permit. So now back to buying early permit. It's just easier. I rode one  day from home last year. At least I got a ride in.
Buying permit is like buying insurance, you can't ride with out. If weather don't co-operate niether are refundable.  Let's hope for best this year 🙏. Hope to see you out there. 

[PISTON LAKE CRUISER]

7 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:

I did that in 2020 turned out I rode about 8 weeks in d5 and d9 that year. Ended up buying one two day permit, then changed that into a full season permit. So now back to buying early permit. It's just easier. I rode one  day from home last year. At least I got a ride in.
Buying permit is like buying insurance, you can't ride with out. If weather don't co-operate niether are refundable.  Let's hope for best this year 🙏. Hope to see you out there. 

This is the first year that I had serious second thoughts about doing trail installation. It has passed, we are at it while the fields are dry and getting more enthused as I go. Fortunately our volunteers have finished the MOU's up and the map is green so we are in good shape for Oct. 22nd.

[Strong Farmer]

5 hours ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:

This is the first year that I had serious second thoughts about doing trail installation. It has passed, we are at it while the fields are dry and getting more enthused as I go. Fortunately our volunteers have finished the MOU's up and the map is green so we are in good shape for Oct. 22nd.

Great thank-you for all you do.