Chickey6.archived Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Has anyone been to the Forest this year? What were your thoughts and or conditions? Just spent our first weekend there and wondering if our experience was the norm? TIA M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonehaven Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Main Trails are pretty good but get beat down by the afternoon. It's very busy in there as well. Side trails need more snow OPP were in there last week pretty much pulling everybody over, my daughter got a speeding ticket for doing 70k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, stonehaven said: Main Trails are pretty good but get beat down by the afternoon. It's very busy in there as well. Side trails need more snow OPP were in there last week pretty much pulling everybody over, my daughter got a speeding ticket for doing 70k Wow that sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsurfnut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Not to start an argument to condone or defend either side of this, but what jurisdiction would OPP have on speed limits in the forest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, windsurfnut said: Not to start an argument to condone or defend either side of this, but what jurisdiction would OPP have on speed limits in the forest? I have been in there several times and been stopped by opp. They usually go in and do a blitz every so often. They told me they judge speed by thier eyes so obviously they weren’t in there to hand out speeding tickets, but to check paper work and insurance and ensure you had paid for day. Lots of people just ride in and don’t pay and use trails for a few hours and leave. So they do blitz’s every so often to catch these people. Strictly paid by forest as it is private. If you had a can and racing around in there, I am sure they would come up with some sort of extra fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsurfnut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said: I have been in there several times and been stopped by opp. They usually go in and do a blitz every so often. They told me they judge speed by thier eyes so obviously they weren’t in there to hand out speeding tickets, but to check paper work and insurance and ensure you had paid for day. Lots of people just ride in and don’t pay and use trails for a few hours and leave. So they do blitz’s every so often to catch these people. Strictly paid by forest as it is private. If you had a can and racing around in there, I am sure they would come up with some sort of extra fine. Yes, I can totally understand checking paperwork, insurance, trail passes etc, and drunk riding. Guess its tough to distinguish between those infractions and speeding, especially in a private area where speed limits are not provincially posted (I'm assuming). I could totally see OPP handing out dangerous/careless driving for those with excessive speeds, but I doubt in a situation like Stonehaven's daughter (posted above) was throttle jockeying around the forest with excessive speeds. Geez OPP doesn't even pull people over on the railbed for much less then 100km/h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRXChris Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, windsurfnut said: Not to start an argument to condone or defend either side of this, but what jurisdiction would OPP have on speed limits in the forest? Not really sure if it's private property how they would enforce Ontario speed limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, SRXChris said: Not really sure if it's private property how they would enforce Ontario speed limits. Most of the OFSC trails are on private property... it's enforceable there. If the owners of the forest want it enforced I imagine it would be the same situation or perhaps the MSVA in fact applies there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, SRXChris said: Not really sure if it's private property how they would enforce Ontario speed limits. Some areas have posted speed limits. My guess would be when you sign the liability form you agree to abide by conditions. One being no speeding. And 2 no cans allowed. And 3 valid insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsurfnut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, 02Sled said: Most of the OFSC trails are on private property... it's enforceable there. If the owners of the forest want it enforced I imagine it would be the same situation or perhaps the MSVA in fact applies there as well. That would make sense, if MSVA applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonehaven Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 There was 2 OPP, one doing radar and other guy basically checking paperwork. Couple of Forest guys assisting. When she got pulled over there was already 12 sleds ahead of her waiting. Her Mother didn't like advice I gave her if that happens next time. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonehaven Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sksman said: Some areas have posted speed limits. My guess would be when you sign the liability form you agree to abide by conditions. One being no speeding. And 2 no cans allowed. And 3 valid insurance. Yup all true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It is the forest that requests the OPP to be in there doing enforcement on their private property....at least that is how I recall how it used to be. They used to have a guy that would enforce things, I recall he always wore an Orange one piece snow suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, stoney said: It is the forest that requests the OPP to be in there doing enforcement on their private property....at least that is how I recall how it used to be. They used to have a guy that would enforce things, I recall he always wore an Orange one piece snow suit. I think every since they had a few serious accidents insurance is probabily mandating they do some enforcement using police force. That is just a guess. In past years ago never heard of police being in there. I believe someone was seriously hurt on north road, hit a big rock doing c note. Not sure if he had been drinking or not, just remember seeing sled pics from various people that were there that day. I have been in there about 7 times or so. Usually poker run day. Never see police that day either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonehaven Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said: Usually poker run day. Never see police that day either. You will never see them in there for the Poker Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 The forest used to be a totally different place than it is now......and yes, that rock face on the sweeping, dropping turn has seen many mishaps..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 30 Years ago people (and our group) used to go ride there because police would not be in there. Lots of fun was had. Poker run weekend was a crap show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRXChris Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, 02Sled said: Most of the OFSC trails are on private property... it's enforceable there. If the owners of the forest want it enforced I imagine it would be the same situation or perhaps the MSVA in fact applies there as well. I wasn't talking OFSC trails. Private property. I've never been to the Forest before so I wasn't sure how it operated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggz Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, SRXChris said: I wasn't talking OFSC trails. Private property. I've never been to the Forest before so I wasn't sure how it operated. Doesn't matter. No different than driving a car; these are motorized and licensed vehicles, hopefully with insurance :). MOT rules apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRXChris Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Puggz said: Doesn't matter. No different than driving a car; these are motorized and licensed vehicles, hopefully with insurance :). MOT rules apply. In the forest or on private property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SRXChris said: I wasn't talking OFSC trails. Private property. I've never been to the Forest before so I wasn't sure how it operated. I realize that... the question was can the OPP enforce the speed in Haliburton Forest since it's private property. My observation was that BOTH the Haliburton Forest AND most of the OFSC trails are on private property yet the OPP enforce the speed on the OFSC trails on private property so why wouldn't they be able to enforce the speed on the Forest trails as well. Especially if they are in there at the request of the owners and possibly even there on paid duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupkids Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Is there a map of the trails in the forest? How many km of trail to they have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, soupkids said: Is there a map of the trails in the forest? How many km of trail to they have ? Maps on there site and all snake trails for most part all over place, east and north trails are straight and fast get into and out of main access area’s. They claim it is 400 Km’s and forest is size of Barbados’s island basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, soupkids said: Is there a map of the trails in the forest? How many km of trail to they have ? https://www.haliburtonforest.com/interactive-trail-maps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) The above image is just a screen capture. Edited January 4, 2021 by Blake G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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