Faceman Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyone heard concrete permit sales numbers from the Gov's meetings this weekend? And when is PTS going to be operating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyone heard concrete permit sales numbers from the Gov's meetings this weekend? And when is PTS going to be operating? Roughly 42,000 is the number posted in the news release from the OFSC 38,000 reg 4000 classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 We talking about 2013 numbers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 We talking about 2013 numbers ? Yes the online sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Ditto on the PTS, when is it going to be up and running. Clubs need to know who has and haven't purchased permits. Only 3 weeks left for $210 pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Ditto on the PTS, when is it going to be up and running. Clubs need to know who has and haven't purchased permits. Only 3 weeks left for $210 pricing. How does who have and haven't make a difference? As long as you know the numbers isn't that key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooboy Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 50 permit minimum to stay in the ofsc. Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 How does who have and haven't make a difference? As long as you know the numbers isn't that key. Three reasons, first is to see how many newbies or persons who had the Free Family Day Long Weekend pass decided to pay to play. Secondly to e-mail those previous purchasers and encourage them to buy before December 2nd. Thirdly, to update our email database. Of course we could do another mass mailing of a combined thank you for purchasing and if you haven't yet then a friendly reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Three reasons, first is to see how many newbies or persons who had the Free Family Day Long Weekend pass decided to pay to play. Secondly to e-mail those previous purchasers and encourage them to buy before December 2nd. Thirdly, to update our email database. Of course we could do another mass mailing of a combined thank you for purchasing and if you haven't yet then a friendly reminder. well said The free weekend thing interests me when it comes to this years purchases to see if it worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Three reasons, first is to see how many newbies or persons who had the Free Family Day Long Weekend pass decided to pay to play. Secondly to e-mail those previous purchasers and encourage them to buy before December 2nd. Thirdly, to update our email database. Of course we could do another mass mailing of a combined thank you for purchasing and if you haven't yet then a friendly reminder. You are talking about the club level are you not? I didn't know the clubs had the names and emails from the Free Family Day Weekend. I thought that was more at the OFSC level. I suspect the OFSC will be compiling that information. I know you can ask your Permit Selling Entity, for us the district for the info on those that selected your club on the permit acquisition (we did). The mass email approach is the one I would be taking and that is why I wondered about the specific who did who didn't aspect. I think you would want to thank those who did and encourage those who didn't. There is a free service MailChimp that facilitates sending an email without it coming from a personal email address, keeps the email address of those you send it to confidential, has an option for the receiver to unsubscribe and gives you stats on how many are opened and more. There is also a free survey tool SurveyMonkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Each Club was given the database for those that chose their club for the Free Family day weekend. We emailed them all using MailChimp even though OFSC said they were emailing them as well. MaiChimp works well and is free. I use it for Club Newsletters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I didn't know the clubs had the names and emails from the Free Family Day Weekend We have the list, you may have missed it. We received it mid spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Once the PTS is available we can finally determine what percentage were upgrades from Free Family or whether they were regulars saving themselves $22.50. It won't be perfect because some people will buy from another club from one year to the next. Only the OFSC will be able to determine how many Free Family Day weekend decided to buy a TP this season. We need at least 10-15% conversion to break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hoping for some good news at the end of the season with the final tallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I would rather we have the good news shortly after December 1st and then even better news as the latecomers buy at $260. Sure hope that cold weather a nd snow continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhz06 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 If I'm reading the OFSC Media Release correctly, they sold 41,589 permits in the early bird sales of which 42% were new or previous years sales. 58% were repeat buyers from last year. This is great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 BINGO - that is fantastic news, much, much better than I would have bet on. This really sets the stage for a great financial season if the pre-December 2nd sales materialize in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch777 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 People just love a bargin! Sale price sells! Good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 42 % more is 17,000 plus permits which equal $3,175,200 if I did the math right. I would say that promotion worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I am skeptical about those numbers. I have problems believing that that many people are new or returning after a hiatus. I think that the numbers get skewed because the online sales do not exactly match the previous permits. For example, I ordered my permits to be delivered at work. Does that make me a new purchaser? The validation of the VIN and registration address was non existent and therefore the numbers are suspect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossy Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I am skeptical about those numbers. I have problems believing that that many people are new or returning after a hiatus. I think that the numbers get skewed because the online sales do not exactly match the previous permits. For example, I ordered my permits to be delivered at work. Does that make me a new purchaser? The validation of the VIN and registration address was non existent and therefore the numbers are suspect IMO. You know that they know exactly who you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Not through my tin foil hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I am skeptical about those numbers. I have problems believing that that many people are new or returning after a hiatus. I think that the numbers get skewed because the online sales do not exactly match the previous permits. For example, I ordered my permits to be delivered at work. Does that make me a new purchaser? The validation of the VIN and registration address was non existent and therefore the numbers are suspect IMO. X2 I would like to believe we have so many new riders I have to admit I never put my VINs on the applications in the past, just lazy I guess so I too may have been considered a new rider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToSlow Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 BINGO - that is fantastic news, much, much better than I would have bet on. This really sets the stage for a great financial season if the pre-December 2nd sales materialize in the same way. well lets see if the money trickles down before the snow flies, or be late march for the clubs to get the money coming to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I know a few people that bought permits for the first time in 3 years. The cheaper permit has helped lure riders back into the sport. Even if you only ride a few times, it is good value to these people. As far as validation goes, my email from last year wouldn't work, so I started from scratch. No record was available from last year either, so I could be a new buyer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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