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Ok guys If your interested in sledding in Quebec this weekend with 3 other guys around the Amos area I have room for 1 sled.We can split a room or get your own .Leaving uxbridge on thurs or friday flexible return after weekend can meet up further north and drop one of our rigs. Avg kms 200-250 day record 550 km Pm for schedule ,directions, habits and questions

Has anyone ever had any issues in Quebec due to not having reflectors on their sled?? Thanks John

As title says, we're planning our first ever trip into Quebec from New Liskeard & thinking of staying in Val-d'Or will most likely have my bride with me, so probably looking for something above a basic room cheers

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I dont know why this is bugging me so much? But I am really pissed about this. I just bought a brand new Garmin Zumo XT2 and was assuming that I would be using it on my new sled this season. I may have even considered paying the extra for the crappy 10.25 gauge on my new sled if I knew that I couldnt use my GPS this season and was stuck with BRP GO. So now I have a $900 GPS that is pretty much a paperweight (in Ontario). I wish I didnt sell my old Montana 680 with my sled as it had the Ontario maps downloaded into it. I know I am jumping the gun, but this is really making me think about just buying a Quebec permit and riding there exclusively this season.

Looks like the trails are heating up so to say anyone interested in going this month to the quebec side NE of North Bay (Temiscaming) or saint zenon as backup for 3 to 4 days as a 4th person in a a group.Could lead to steady deployment

Whats clear to me is our current understanding of what is happening to the Earths climate and why is extremely narrow minded and highly uninformed. Remember 99% percent of the worlds leading scientists were utterly and totally wrong on their predictions. Al Gores propaganda film; An inconvenient truth made bold claims that in ten years Florida would be mostly under water and the Arctic sea ice would be completely melted yet to my knowledge not one inch of Florida is more under water today then it was in 2006 when he and 99% of the worlds leading scientists agreed it would happen. There was a bunch more BS in that film and the point Im making here is we have to look at other considerations these guys clearly dont have it down exactly right. I come from a planet of people who know one simple fact; You get what you pay for. On that front as I mentioned above we have plenty of time to manage the climate from a Canadian perspective and we can certainly do enormously more to help with a massive sovereign wealth fund than we can by endebting ourselves and our childrens children children into poverty with some half baked debt fueled windmill scam like Kathleen Wynne pulled. We pay 3x the price for electricity in Ontario thanks to that witch all for the glorious gains of 1.5% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions for those stupid wind turbines. Not to mention the forest fire that burned all summer from the contractors in the North who were installing them. Speaking of forest fires how about that damn arsonist arrest in Quebec that Trudope screamed in parliament was being caused by climate change? Was that a payback favour from one of his payoffs like Kadhr or Josh Boyle perhaps?

On a guided trip--go onto Lac St. Jean-WTF-oldest adage in ice travel-"if you don't know-don't go"!

Heading to Amos next week since Ontario is starting slowly.staying at Amosphere for the first time any hints or experiences. Going for four days of riding We like to do day trips (loops ) and back to the hotel for the hottub any suggestions would be appreciated (lunch destinations)

After reading all this it makes me want to go to Quebec this winter.

Rode with Fabio from Ville-Marie to Val-d’Or, Val-d’Or to La Sarre and La Sarre back to Ville-Marie. Riding was fantastic and trails were in great shape for the most part. Snow depth around VM is definitely less than other areas we rode but your not riding in snirt. Snow depth even increased once we hit 63 east towards Belleterre. Stayed on 63 almost to Belleterre and took a local trail north to La Force on trail 309. Trail was okay but we did hit a couple water spots and a stuck groomer. Snow depth was there but it’s early season. 309 from La Force was good into Val-d’Or. Snow depth definitely increased north of Rapid Sept. All other trails we were on were good. 83 west to 307 from Val-d’Or. 307 north to Amos. 93 west to La Sarre. 93 south to Rouyn-Noranda. 83 south to 303. 303 south to 63 back to Ville-Marie. There is logging on 303 for about 7 kms north of the dam in Angliers. Hopefully this helps everyone on the free weekend. Enjoy the trails.

My vacation begins with a road trip up to the Corridur du North Corridor, good weather and road conditions....here is whiz stop just south of North Bay so you can ascertain snow depth conditions.... BTW anyone buying a new pickup truck should definitely get the crew cab model.....the two doors open outward creating a shelter that might prevent an arrest for urinating in a public place, but save a lot of time not having to pull into gas stations, restaurants and other road side stops to answer nature's call....hmmmm...maybe can train ms. slomo to balance her butt on the running boards....next trip.... The Apollo Motel in Kap must have changed owners...emails usually answered within a half hour or so went unanswered....maybe a message from the accomodation gods...so following the example those two motel doyens revrnd and sledjunk, decided to try the Advantage right next door. Practically deserted...as were most other hotels/motels in the area, which was strange given the good trail conditions... Upon entering the room, it was immediately apparent as to why this motel was favoured....a work bench ready for those tinkerers to set up various tools! My results differed. Spent a couple of days of getting used to and making a few notes about the new to me sled on the trails that never disappoint....folks from my area of the country find it unseemly to brag about such things, but did get in more than a few kilometers including some measured 100 km runs to ascertain future fuel expectations. Then under an ominous red morning sky....off to the Abitibi-Temiskaming... onto what turned into a nice drive in sunny conditions.... terminating at the Rodeway Inn, just north of Amos at Pikogan. Hotel is brand new....get ground floor rooms...elevator out of service. Out for a brief run upon arrival.....trails are deep and crisp and even.... Hope you are enjoying your family time. More later as it becomes available.

Clearly no one in a position to clear up the problem has any intention of doing so.

The RDL ferry stops operating January 1. So would have to go east to Baie Comeau and take ferry to Matane. Or the same ferry also departs out of Godbout which is 100 km east of Baie Comeau on the north shore, crosses to Matane also. The trail between Baie Comeau and Godbout is a twisty roller coaster ride. If you like thrills it is well worth the time doing if the ferry schedule works into your plan. Ending up in Matane works well as the scenic part of the Gaspe starts after you get east of Matane. If you’re on a big adventure then being on the north shore is a much better ride out to Baie Comeau vs the ride from RDL to Matane. The only other crossing option is a truck and trailer shuttle service at Quebec City that will carry you over the bridge to Levi on the south side of river. The Matane ferry has had a terrible problem with mechanical issues the past few years, add in weather conditions and it’s not always a reliable service. You would want to be checking daily the few days before hoping to cross to be sure all was good. We have never taken the ferry, not sure for sleds if a reservation is required or not.

They sure do. We found that in both Ontario and Quebec, if your sled was relatively new they would rob parts from showroom sleds to get you going. One time in Amos the dealer needed engine parts for my buddies 4 year old sled. They didn't have them but the mechanic knew a local that had a wrecked sled the same. The mechanic went that evening and got the parts needed of the wreck and had us go riding by 10 AM the next morning. My feeling is that those dealers know if they take care of transcient issues you won't go elsewhere and it's extra business for them. The locals will still be there after you're gone so they will leave a local sled for later and fix the transcient.

The dream team. Ready to ride by 7:30, disappointed if we don't do at least 400km a day. All giggles on the 500+km days. We don't let a break down ruin our trip. Get it on a flat bed and off to the dealer, those Quebec mechanics get it done in a matter of hours. All shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.

Excellent info. Fuse6! We have always made a point of riding the trail from Murdockville to La Cache. If you happen to have a sunny morning leaving Murdockville that trail is about as picturesque as it gets. That said we have ridden it when it was a challenge with large drifts forming since the last grooming. Have ridden the road when it got too tough. I have never understood why the Quebec map doesn't put the trail # on it for that trail. I was told once that its because its considered a local trail. Poor excuse in my estimation. 595 north from LaCache is nice as well. 597 south to 5 from Murdockville is also one that should be on the plan. We would rather spend time on those interior trails than riding the south shore from Perce to Point a la Croix however if you are riding a loop you pretty much need to go through PALC to enjoy the awesome trails northwest of there like trail 587. If you feel the need to sqeeze the trigger, 597 south from 5 to Mudochville used to often be referred to as Piston Alley. Really, its all awesome unless its in a storm or just after one. We always get our rooms all booked in advance because we know where we like to stay and eat and can most often get side by side rooms that way.

Agreed. That trail is possibly the best trail to ride in the entire province of Quebec.

Here are my tips for planning a big trip, especially if you are going with a large group. 1 - Dont plan super hi mileage days. I can put on iron man type of miles no problem with 1 other guy. Once you get 6+ guys in a group, I try to plan all my days in Eastern Quebec the 250kms range. With 6-8 guys, everything takes a long time inc getting gas, smoke breaks, pee breaks etc.... I try to plan everything so we will be at the hotel by 5pm. This way if we have an issue we will be at the hotel by 7pm (hopefully). It gets pretty cold there once the sun goes down and as we get older no one can see as well at night. 2 - Make sure everyone in your group has a serviced and well maintained sled. On this Gaspe trip we had 2 sleds break down and continously fought with a starter bendix on an older MXZ800 that just wasnt serviced properly. 1 of our break downs was on a brand new sled so sh-t can just happen but if you have a well maintained sled, the chances decrease dramatically. The chase truck is awesome on a long saddlebag ride. It is so nice to not have to carry around all your crap for an entire week. I just rolled a suit case into the trailer every morning and had a big rubbermaid tote with all my extra oil, parts etc... I brought my Macbook in my suit case and could answer emails at the hotel every night. I even did a Zoom meeting before we left one day. I would not have brought it otherwise. We were in constant contact with chase truck as we had a couple of SPOTs with us and we could see where he was and he could see where we were. We actually needed him when the new sled quit. It turned out we were only 25kms apart. We towed the sled to the nearest crossroad and there he was waiting for us. Dragged the broken sled onto the trailer and jumped on the spare. We were on our way in 15 mins and the chase guy took the sled to a BRP dealer who fixed it that day. Turned out there was a wire shorting on the frame causing the sled to go into limp mode. I lucked out when it was my turn to drive the truck. I had to drive from Amqui to New Richmond and left a bit earlier than the rest of the guys. I got to New Richmond, checked us all into the hotel, bought beer and snacks at the Metro across the street and decided to pull my sled out and go for a rip. I knew the route everyone was taking so I just hit the trail and started riding towards them. I ended up stopping at a club house about 85kms in and just waited for the rest of my crew to show up. I had a snack and a beer while waiting with some guys I met from Woodstock ON and rode back to New Richmond with my guys so I drove the truck and still got 170kms on for the day. If your guys ride at different speeds, dont be afraid to split up and meet at the hotel. We did that 1 day and it was great. Part of our group liked fiddling around on their Backcountrys off trail and the other guys were on pure trail sleds and couldnt go off trail. The trail guys just went our own way 1 day on a completely different route and knew where we were meeting the other guys that night. No hard feelings with either group. I was in the trail group and we had an amazing day riding along the St Lawrence. * There will be other things that will come to mind and I will add to the list *

Good idea Stoney! So I think the first decision is usually to decide on a starting/ending point. We have started as far west as Victoriaville and at Bernieres (south shore @ Quebec City) the reason being that we don't like driving when we could be riding. For most of the trips we started in Riviere Du Loup at the Hotel Universal. They have outside sled compound as well as a truck/trailer compound and pretty much anything else you might need like gas right next door and trail out the back of the parking lot. RDL offers the opportunity to ride south and then east through some gorgeous area or east on the main trail (5) which goes all the way around Gaspe. RDL also let us spend 2 extra days riding in more scenic areas of Gaspe. The other large centre starting point would be Rimouski (a couple of hours east of RDL). Its pretty close to the junction of 5 east along the north shore and 5 west from Amqui. Personally, I would never start any further east than Rimouski. Of course, the number of days you have available to ride will have a bearing on where you might start. From our area near Kitchener Waterloo RDL is about all we want to do on a drive day. I'll leave it there for now as I'm sure others will no doubt have other start/end locations to mention.

I am sure in some scanario’s they let you change or cancel free of charge. I was at Elliot lake at lodge and people called in while I was sitting at bar and canceled to a broke down sled and owner said no problem and was grateful to have a chance to catch up on laundry and few things around hotel. Weather related chance riders will be stuck and take another night anyways. Champanion and west way in Ontario have been good for above scanario too. Quebec pretty snowmobile friendly so imagine places that will bend rules providing they can move food you ordered, in hopes you book again in future.

We tentatively have Gaspe booked for the last week of Jan/1st week of Feb. Havent done in since 2020 and have covered pretty much everywhere else in Quebec so its time to go back. Its a great trip!

I disagree, but would say that Quebec generally has better weather for their trails. If we had the weather they did - I would see very little reason to go there vs. the varying terrain Ontario has to offer.

The Ontario permit is a deal IMO. Our trails are not as good as Quebecs are but the $220 could easily be $300 and I wouldnt complain. The thought of buying both Ontario and Quebec permits this year x 2 sleds is starting to hit my tipping point though. $1400 in permits is a big pill to swallow.

Looks pretty reasonable. I'm having some troubles stomaching the Quebec increase this year. $900 for two sleds is getting up there. This is really in line with what I would expect in Ontario for this year. With inflation it's only fair. Fuel prices are rising again and equipment costs definitely haven't dropped.