02Sled Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Very sad news indeed, but one thing I noticed was that it states both the sled and pedestrian where eastbound on the same side of the road. This tells me that the pedestrian was walking with traffic, which I think is against the law? You always walk facing traffic when there is no sidewalk, unless you are Kathleen Wynne while running. Maybe he could have gotten out of the way had he seen the sled? Still two people dead and still a sad story. You are assuming that the sled was on the proper side of the road and the pedestrian wasn't... are you sure the sled wasn't on the wrong side of the road. I have seen sleds running the wrong side of the road lots of times. Especially when one side has more snow than the other. Many of us often simply choose the side with the most snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 The sled must have been outdriving its headlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfisher Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 The sled must have been outdriving its headlights Thats the case most times I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgianBayGuy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Education, peer pressure, time. Drinking and driving has finally evolved into a shamefull act. Talking on a cell phone, or reading a smart phone while driving is slowly being accepted as being as being just as bad as drinking and driving. Somehow the attitude that is ok to act like an idiot on a snowmobile (boat, ATV, personal watercraft) is cool is still out there. I understand in an overly regulated world it is fun to push the limits, but there is a place and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thats the case most times I believe. Its not just what you can see but what you can see and have time to react Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfisher Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Very true ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Lee valley road is a secondary road (no sidewalks) Most of it is also in a very rural area. Not the pedestrians fault for sure. Also has a 40kmh speed limit where this happened. Clearly the sledder was at fault, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drivebelt Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 You are assuming that the sled was on the proper side of the road and the pedestrian wasn't... are you sure the sled wasn't on the wrong side of the road. I have seen sleds running the wrong side of the road lots of times. Especially when one side has more snow than the other. Many of us often simply choose the side with the most snow. My assumption was made considering it says they where both heading east on the south side of the road suggesting the sled was on the correct side and the pedestrian was on the wrong side. Obviously the sledder was at fault for going too fast, but the pedestrian possibly could have put himself in a safer position. Doesn't really matter who was at fault as the damage has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 My assumption was made considering it says they where both heading east on the south side of the road suggesting the sled was on the correct side and the pedestrian was on the wrong side. Obviously the sledder was at fault for going too fast, but the pedestrian possibly could have put himself in a safer position. Doesn't really matter who was at fault as the damage has been done. Gotcha... I didn't know about the south part just heard east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 My assumption was made considering it says they where both heading east on the south side of the road suggesting the sled was on the correct side and the pedestrian was on the wrong side. Obviously the sledder was at fault for going too fast, but the pedestrian possibly could have put himself in a safer position. Doesn't really matter who was at fault as the damage has been done. They wont do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterules Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I find that some riders once they get onto a road think they can go faster and have more control . The roads flat , usually hard packed thus giving them the idea that it's safer to ride fast on . I find myself going slower on the road as I feel I have way less control than if I was on the trail . Over the years there's been other riders that have run right into the back of parked cars / trucks speed must be a factor I would think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Very sad news indeed, but one thing I noticed was that it states both the sled and pedestrian where eastbound on the south side of the road. This suggests the pedestrian was walking with traffic, which I think is against the law? You always walk facing traffic when there is no sidewalk, unless you are Kathleen Wynne while running. Maybe he could have gotten out of the way had he seen the sled? Still two people dead and still a sad story. there is no law that states you must walk facing traffic,only a suggestion as it is safer. If the speed limit was less then 80km for the road(no sure how close to town the accident was),that means the speed limit for the sled would have been 20km I think. If it was 80km for the road I think the speed limit for the sled is 50km? Very hard to kill both people at either of those posted limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake G Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Snowmobile Speed Limits 50 km/h - on snowmobile trails20 km/h - on roads where the speed limit is 50 km/h or less 50 km/h - on roads where the speed limit is over 50 km/h http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/topics/snowmobile.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch777 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Now two people are dead and we argue who was a fault! I think at this point it does nothing to help either of them. All we can do is point out ways for both sledders and pedestrians to help avoid the same fate. On the pedestrians side of it walking facing traffic would have been a good idea and why its pointed out as the safe thing to do. Wearing reflective clothing also a good idea. Both could save your life! On the sledders side of it speed was the factor! Kind of self explanitory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther340 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 here is another sad one that occured two days ago on the Ranger Lake Rd just North of the Sault. Victim was identified today. http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/details.asp?c=66393 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Now two people are dead and we argue who was a fault! I think at this point it does nothing to help either of them. All we can do is point out ways for both sledders and pedestrians to help avoid the same fate. On the pedestrians side of it walking facing traffic would have been a good idea and why its pointed out as the safe thing to do. Wearing reflective clothing also a good idea. Both could save your life! On the sledders side of it speed was the factor! Kind of self explanitory! you perceive this is an argument about fault, when it is more about awareness and prevention,,, at some point in time both the pedestrian and the operator had an opportunity to avoid the contact,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 here is another sad one that occured two days ago on the Ranger Lake Rd just North of the Sault. Victim was identified today. http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/details.asp?c=66393 Another tragedy! As all of these are. We can assign blame and point out mistakes all we want, but it is still tragic and devastating for the family and friends of those involved. My condolences go out to all who are involved. And please, everyone ride safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 here is another sad one that occured two days ago on the Ranger Lake Rd just North of the Sault. Victim was identified today. http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/details.asp?c=66393 It was mentioned last night on the MCTV 11 PM news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch777 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 you perceive this is an argument about fault, when it is more about awareness and prevention,,, at some point in time both the pedestrian and the operator had an opportunity to avoid the contact,, It may have started as awareness but was quickly gravitating towards fault. I was only pointing out awareness and prevention! Did ya read my whole post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFN68eYoI-I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Jay, that would make a good PSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 That gets yourattention should be part of driver training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Good clip, too bad we didn't see the speedo ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledguy74 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Perfect example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aar0n Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 that's just stupid fast! How can somebody be that dumb to go that fast at night on a road with cars...wow. coming back from bracebridge three sleds gunned it across the road, and if I didn't know the road crossing was there, they would all be roadkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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