Irv Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Grimm said: Until the power steering unit fails and it costs upwards of $1500 to replace. Has there been failures? I assume so by your comment but I have never heard of any. Of course, when on TY, I go into the old Vector section so it's unlikely I'd read about them there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whits-end Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 29 minutes ago, Grimm said: Until the power steering unit fails and it costs upwards of $1500 to replace Tee-Hee-Hee! I remember when the naysayers said such things about 2-stroke oil injection. And how did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 It happened to me, but I ended buying a used unit to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whits-end Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 And the odd oil pump packed up over the years, but statistically few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibson Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, whits-end said: And the odd oil pump packed up over the years, but statistically few. Yamaha did have a problem in 94 or 95 with oil pumps. The pumps would wear out the pin and go to full stroke. There was a warranty campaign to replace all oil pumps that year. VMax 5/600 models only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I believe one day that the power steering will become commonplace it has in atvs it did in vehicles it just makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Grimm said: Until the power steering unit fails and it costs upwards of $1500 to replace. Not unlike an ecm failing and costing 2k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Grimm said: Until the power steering unit fails and it costs upwards of $1500 to replace. That can't be a common problem though. Have a Yamaha atv with 500 hours never an issue with power steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledguy74 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Grimm said: Until the power steering unit fails and it costs upwards of $1500 to replace. Replacement parts cost would never prevent me from buying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian nytro Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The hate being aimed at my beloved yamaha apex is killing me! As for the power steering failures I've only ever heard of one and that was Grimm on TY I follow that site very closely. The Apex is a purpose built trail sled and its one of the best at that job in my opinion! It's not for putting on your back and going cross country weed whacking! I've ridden a lot of newer sleds from ski-doo and polaris, for what I do I wouldn't trade it for anything! I've had plenty of people run there mouths who like to drink kool aid and alway think there brand new sled is better then my 2011 apex and thats fine its there opinion. I've got +21,000km on my Apex and haven't had to stare at too many tail lights over the years and never on the end of a rope. "Can't ride a Warranty" I have to leave this negativity and go ride my old iron! PS looking forward to the release even if its just more cat stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, canadian nytro said: The hate being aimed at my beloved yamaha apex is killing me! As for the power steering failures I've only ever heard of one and that was Grimm on TY I follow that site very closely. The Apex is a purpose built trail sled and its one of the best at that job in my opinion! It's not for putting on your back and going cross country weed whacking! I've ridden a lot of newer sleds from ski-doo and polaris, for what I do I wouldn't trade it for anything! I've had plenty of people run there mouths who like to drink kool aid and alway think there brand new sled is better then my 2011 apex and thats fine its there opinion. I've got +21,000km on my Apex and haven't had to stare at too many tail lights over the years and never on the end of a rope. "Can't ride a Warranty" I have to leave this negativity and go ride my old iron! PS looking forward to the release even if its just more cat stuff. X2, but with my Vector's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, canadian nytro said: The hate being aimed at my beloved yamaha apex is killing me! As for the power steering failures I've only ever heard of one and that was Grimm on TY I follow that site very closely. The Apex is a purpose built trail sled and its one of the best at that job in my opinion! It's not for putting on your back and going cross country weed whacking! I've ridden a lot of newer sleds from ski-doo and polaris, for what I do I wouldn't trade it for anything! I've had plenty of people run there mouths who like to drink kool aid and alway think there brand new sled is better then my 2011 apex and thats fine its there opinion. I've got +21,000km on my Apex and haven't had to stare at too many tail lights over the years and never on the end of a rope. "Can't ride a Warranty" I have to leave this negativity and go ride my old iron! PS looking forward to the release even if its just more cat stuff. They can keep up and even be faster on a straight smooth trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Sledguy74 said: Replacement parts cost would never prevent me from buying something. True. There are 10's and thousands of atv's out on market by Yamaha and power steering failures aren't common, even on sleds they aren't common. I have tractors 20 plus years old, used in a crappy dusty environment, power steering still original, never repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Sledder Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, sledjunk said: X2, but with my Vector's. X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTC Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I agree with you CanNyytro, I have love my 15 apex, my lovely wife has a 2018 1200 tnt i hate it, handles like a moose on ice, Anybody that bashes apex s , knows crap about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Old Sledder said: X3 And I'll X4 that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baylaker Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Arctic cats release is today, so that should give us all an idea on what’s to come lol i love the cat chassis! Its great, and although not a skidoo suspension...it’s not that far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manotickmike Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Unless something radically better comes along, I'm going to replace my (25,000 km) Apex with another one. When the time comes. What it may lack in some areas, it MORE than makes up in others. I maintain, whomever decided to put that R1 motor into a sled was 1/2 evil genius, 1/2 mad scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 53 minutes ago, manotickmike said: Unless something radically better comes along, I'm going to replace my (25,000 km) Apex with another one. When the time comes. What it may lack in some areas, it MORE than makes up in others. I maintain, whomever decided to put that R1 motor into a sled was 1/2 evil genius, 1/2 mad scientist. No doubt that is the best engine ever put in a sled. would love to see it crammed in a cat chasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Baylaker said: Arctic cats release is today, so that should give us all an idea on what’s to come lol i love the cat chassis! Its great, and although not a skidoo suspension...it’s not that far off. I love my Cat with the Yamaha engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I will say this... I'd love to have the Apex engine under the hood of my Skidoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Grimm said: I will say this... I'd love to have the Apex engine under the hood of my Skidoo. Lol. Why what is wrong with your skidoo engine? Doo makes pretty good four strokes and most start in cold with little isssues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, Viperules700 said: Lol. Why what is wrong with your skidoo engine? Doo makes pretty good four strokes and most start in cold with little isssues. i would guess because the apex engine is on a level all its own when it comes to four strokes. 160hp from a liter is very impressive any way you look at it. It is a superbike engine, and revs like an F1 car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whits-end Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Viperules700 said: I have tractors 20 plus years old, used in a crappy dusty environment, power steering still original, never repaired. My '65 International has power steering too but hydraulic, not electric servo. Unless yours are a lot different I don't see the relevance here. As far as EPS is concerned, I love it on my ATV and my sled, and so does my wife; but we're old. Our son is in his 30's, and he noticed a huge difference in his shoulders at the end of a riding day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Viperules700 said: Lol. Why what is wrong with your skidoo engine? Doo makes pretty good four strokes and most start in cold with little isssues. never run an R1 engine then ehh they are impressive the rest of the sled is a tank though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.