Big Pussy

Amen.

There are decent hotels in Sturgeon Falls and not that hard to get to BUT getting gas in Sturgeon is a scratch fest.

I think they are baked in Brantford at Aritza (old Maidstone).

Pros Superior ride and handling. Much lighter weight if that is important. I get 19 - 20 mpg imperial. May be better than Apex. I have a buddy with a 40th anniversary Apex and he now has a Viper and a Sidewinder. He has the definative comparison. I can do more than 200 km on a tank of gas. I think it will do 230 Km. Went from Ault-Reekie lodge to Rockies in Suds with lots of fuel to spare. Used about 26 liters. Have the dealer update the ECM program to the 2019 and it will start cold and purr at idle. The Cat skis actually turn the sled instead of plowing through the corner like the Viper Tuner skis do. Factory carbides don't dart. I bought the 2017 from Aberfoyle and got it cheaper than my 2015. It was new in a crate from a dealer up north. The sled is virtually the same as a Viper but much less expensive and has better skis. The instrument cluster is pretty good. Digital RPM, Speed, gas gauge, water temp, inlet air temp, altimeter, clock, two re-settable trip odometers, peak hold read back of RPM. Instruments can be Imperial or Metric. Sled speed is accurate to 1-2 KPH to GPS. No old exaggeration. Accessory receptacle that I use with a USB adapter to run my Garman GPS or you can charge a cell phone. Receptacle switches off with key. Infinitely adjustable front and center spring preload with threaded colors. No three position pre-loaders. Cons Chinese bearings with no grease in them. Must take the clutch secondary and brake caliper off and pull a seal and add grease yearly. I do a mod to stop the bearing from spinning on the track driveshaft. 2017 have Team primary and Team BOSS secondary clutch. I have no experience with these yet but I do like the 2015 clutches although I re-calibrate to reduce RPM and improve gas mileage. 4-stroke valve lash adjustment should be done at 12,000 Km. Yamaha said 30,000 but the exhaust valves get so tight that it won't idle. Adjust the shims to save burning the exhaust valves/seats. Remember, this is a Yamaha fault. Many have had starter/starter idler gear tooth failures on 2014- early 2016 engines. I never had a problem but got the ECM updates and held the key to avoid the kick backs. Should remove the rear Tri-hub and replace with J&T ATV replacement kit with real 6205 bearings and also add the two outside wheels. I add a pair of Katt's 50 watt self adhesive heater pads to the sump pan and engine block. Plug in at night when very cold out and the sled will start like a summer day. I move the fuse /relay block with a bracket I make to a location over the belt guard. No need to remove the hood to change a fuse or relay. You may need areal windshield depending on the model. The thong looks cool but feels colder. Need a left side mirror as well if going to Quebec. Chain tensioner is manual and you must pull the muffler to get at it. Don't neglect it. Get a copper muffler gasket from Hurricane Performance so you don't need to keep buying new gaskets. The track is only clipped every second bar. I buy flat clips and add the missing clips to reduce the slider/rubber track friction. Also the extrovert drivers have the clip to drive against instead of the rubber bar. Need to replace the soft plastic rear spring preload triangles with the billet aluminum kit so you can adjust without just stripping the hex off. Gas tank need a rear bumper push down to get a big puff of air out if you need all the range. There is a lot of info here. I edited my original post so you may want to go back and read it. I love my 2015 more every time I ride it. I have a high 17" touring windshield and the sled is real warm. I ride the Northern Corridor at -20 to -30 C with no problems. You can make it a very reliable sled if you do the mods that I do. I never trade up. I buy a sled and ride it forever. I have a 1995 Wildcat with 20,000 miles, a 2001 T-Cat with 23,000 miles. I take care of them and rebuild as necessary. I have lots of pictures of my 2015 sled apart and the mods I do if you have any more questions. BP

What do you want to know ? I just bought a 2017 ZR7000 LXR 129 for my son in April. It has traveled 20 ft so far into the trailer. I will be doing a complete dis-assembly of the drive line to do my reliability updates in about a month. I own a 2015 XF7000 LXR 137". I have about 6000 Km on it and love the sled. There are many minor differences between a 2015 and a 2017 in clutches, drive line bearings, a new design Yamaha engine, spring a shock calibration, etc. If you buy one, don't pick it up until the dealer does the ECM flash to install the 2019 program. That is the difference between a so so engine calibration and a Cat-illac. Be prepared to spend another $1000 on things like a J&T ATV Tri-Hub eliminator and the forth wheel add on kit. A high windshield, mirrors, Kat's 50 watt heater pads for the engine if you want it to start at -20C. I have written a few post on these topics in the tech section. Just search Yama-Cat 7000.

Your SR Viper 137 is identical to the Green sled in the pictures above. Same length, same engine, same assembly line.

Found some pictures with the XF7000 in the trailer.

I bought my Toy Carrier new in 2006. I have made some wiring mods and changed the floor slides to a low profile type from Princess Auto in order to lower the windshield hitting the slope with my new XF7000. This trailer is one of the better ones for a rider forward sled since the slope is fairly steep. My XF7000 is 125" long overall. This should help with fitting the touring sled. My sled back bumper is almost touching the back door. I don't have any pictures with the XF in the trailer but here are some with my 121" T-Cat and my old 136" Wildcat Touring. If the back reset will pivot forward, then there my be less interference with the hatch. Check the trailer out carefully for broken weds in the axle brackets and missing insulators between the axle brackets and the aluminum frame. This will eat the frame rails through.

Slomo, Ski holes won't work because the windshield will already be against the slope, especially if it is a high windshield. The fix I suggested is a cheap way to to get the 3 or 4" required to close the rear hatch over the rear bumper. Although it may be a hack job in your eyes, it can eliminate the need to spend big money on a new trailer, especially since the Toy Carrier has been out of production for 10 years and its resale value is probably low. We don't all have an endless money supply for this short season sport.

I don't think it will fit. The windshield will hit the slope part and the door won't close. I put an XF7000 137 in mine but that is it. I even put water pipe noodle over the back bumper so it don't rub. There is no nose to put the skis into. You can always cut a square hole in the rear door where the bumper hits, and then make an aluminum box to rivet on to cover it. Since the door opens out, it will clear the bumper when opening. Or you can spend $5,000 + on a new trailer.

So there is a working sled to toe out the broken DESS posts.

So you don't have to trade every year before the crankshaft bearings explode.

I bought a 2017 ZR7000 LXR in a crate this spring. $5000 off MSRP. The crates were being picked up at dealers all over so he had product due to the order only 2020 year. Looks like the cut in production did the job. My dealer is building a new facility. I hope the dealer cutback don't affect him.

I'm thinking it may be beneficial to install the ugly MTO license plate sticker on a thin aluminum plate, temporarily affixed to each side of the tunnel. This might negate any BS form the Sortie. Any problem with the location of the val tag ?

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The aluminum weld quality leaves a lot to be desired. Looks like it was made with a spool gun and not a Fronius CMT welding system. Maybe the weld will break before the channel corrodes through. One of the mounting brackets on my Toy Carrier axle (same axle as used on Triton) broke beside the weld at bracket to axle joint in the heat affected zone. This caused more sway than normal and if left unchecked, would result in an axle leaving the trailer. It was welded and got through the winter. Needs checking again. The moral of the story is to do a good summer check over to avoid the tears on the side of the road and ride home on a flat bed.

How fast do you want to go ? I got 149 kph @ 8450 rpm out of my 2015 XF7000 LXR 137. I just bought a 2017 ZR7000 137 for my son. It will be slow compared to the T-Cat but it will reel him in a bit.

I'm sure the 2nd trip meter will appear on the 2021 or 2022 model. This small change will entice you to trade up again, loosing thousands in the deal.

I stopped in there last year with my son and the grandchildren. There was some locals there. (ex Home Hardware owner). I pointed out the burning wood stove to the kids. Opened the lid so they could see the fire and told stories of how I had to light the fire in the old cook stove we had in our farm house and how my mother used to cook on it sometimes when the power was out. It was a good education for them. Then they just wanted to get on the sleds again.

I have an open invitation to ride with an old co-worker who lives in Kaniscotia with his friends from there up to SRF. So far I have not taken him up on the offer. They have mountain sleds.

Was the recoil always broken ? When I was a boy, the neighbor just used a bale string. That was when my friend and I on that sled would ride over the fence lines from field to field in the deep snow of the 60's. It rarely got stuck.

I don't buy the whole BS of not have insurance either. It's not an OPP closed trail. It's all off road. No different than ATV etc. They are not made to be on road vehicles.