Sksman

We rode from kinmount to Whitney and back. Trails were good. Hard and crusty in morning. But softened up towards haliburton. Passed groomers north and south of haliburton

Anyone going Wednesday? I am looking to park at Superior lot north of Fenelon. Aiming for 9am ish.

I doubt the OFSC would get the same interest as the Hardwood ski club. The Hardwood experience is sold to new skiers and rentals. They can accommodate the family group of new skiers for a quaint afternoon. Short loop closed circuit without yahoos riding at break neck speed to run into. Who do you know would pay $100 to ride in the back of a groomer on a snowmobile trail? Most are on their sled riding if they can be.

A friend was telling me that locals have been riding Kinmount area trails for awhile now.

Why doesn’t the OFSC attach a online training program to the permit purchase? have an educational video of “x” minutes stating the facts about trespassing and loss of trails. Show some examples and the lost trail. Maybe a map of where trails were lost and the reroutes required. If you do not watch video your permit transaction does not go through. Its only a thought on educating. Might not sink in with people. Might piss off a few or a lot but message has to get out and be heard.

Was at the Forest today. They filled their 100 sled max and we’re turning guys away. The trails were better then we expected. Yes they need some fresh snow. The main trails are icy in corners. There was enough lube and cooling. Didn’t see a lot of scratchers being used. Most of the smaller trails do not have enough snow for grooming but are passable if you can handle some humps and bumps. We rode 160km or so. I hit a few rocks in places. But that is expected and happens on most trails when the cool guys spin their tracks down to the dirt on every hill crest. Overall I would go again if it remains the only riding within 3 to4 hour drive.

Anything over 4500kg combined weight required a yearly inspection with yellow sticker dated for proof. Tandem axle enclosed trailer also required. it was a disputed topic many times but weigh scales in Milton told me I needed yellow stickers with F150 and 23 ft Triton. Conservative gov has cancelled yellow stickers for private use.

No more stickers for personal use. Win win with HD diesel.

That’s the good thing about vehicles. People can buy and drive what pleases them. Personally I would buy a 2500 Diesel truck long before I buy a corvette or Mustang. Waste of money to say I have it? i know one thing, in all the years I have owned a pickup I have had way more friends ask to borrow my trucks then the guys who own corvettes and mustangs. Go figure!!

Interesting that in the link it shows only 155,000 registered in Ontario. Lower then anticipated by many. The source of this number is International Snowmobile Manufacturers. I wonder if this number is same as MTO registrations or is an estimate by manufacturers association?

Could be busier on Severn side. I have edited my post previous as we are on Trent side east of Simcoe. No where near the boats going through on a long weekend.

How many boats buy lock passes yearly? I would bet the number is in decline. I watch from our cottage over the years and notice a huge drop in boats travelling the system East of Simcoe on the Trent Marinas have closed. Kinda like sledding numbers will be in decline.

I track every tank in my 2017 Ram 1500 Sport with 5.7. My best tanks ever were 11.31 l/100km. Driving from Toronto to Kirkland Lake to Ottawa to Montreal and then back to Milton. And 11.95l/100km. Lifetime average of 14.25l/100km. Based on Roadtrip app and almost every fill up recorded. I missed one or two. I have almost every fill up recorded for last 8 years on my trucks. I do it for business write off. While it’s great to say I got 9l/100kms on a trip once over the life of truck it’s not true especially if we are talking overall operating cost of vehicle. If you are averaging 16 city and once got 9 your true l/100kms operating cost will be much higher. Like 14 or 15 depending on you city/highway km ratio. Calculating operating cost needs all km accounted for not your best day.

Sorry 02. Not sure of your numbers. Factor in the higher resale at the end of the deal also. People look at a diesel with 100,000kms different then a gas truck. I bought a 1500 ram with hemi only because the US EPA had stopped Ram from shipping diesels for 8 months. I wish I had the diesel. Look at fuel economy numbers from Fuelly.com. Guys are reporting mileage with 3.0 diesel Ram. 10 - 11 l/100km vs 14-16 l/100km with the hemi motor. and compare your 3.5v6 Ford F-150 at 14 l/100 km. 25 - 30% increase in fuel economy. Then throw in towing a trailer and watch the savings change even more

There is also a big difference between the 2500/3500 diesels and the new 1500 class diesels. I am hearing some pretty good MPG numbers pulling and empty. Way better economy then a 2500/3500 when empty. And pretty good numbers when towing.

Sorry but I do not understand the reference to the Fishing only outdoor card. Anyone who buys any type of outdoor card can ice fish. Hunters ice fish as do sport license card holders and conservation card holders.

Do they pay for Val tags in the north?

Now if there was a group insurance included in with the Val tag and trail pass there might be a way to grab more sales. There are many threads discussing high insurance prices. If liability was included with permit and add on a Val tag would it work? Its a no win situation for someone always.

Why does a guy who does not ride a groomed trail ever have to pay for trail grooming? And there are many of those guys out there. See lake Simcoe or Lake Nipissing in January to March. Yes there are are guys that ride groomed trails with out a permit who ice fish. And lots of guys who ride groomed trails without a permit and do not ice fish. This is an old argument and been had many times over. I think all val tags on snowmobiles should include a fishing license. No trail permit required. there are as many or more snowmobiles used for ice fishing then trail riding and many people do not buy fishing licenses but fish. Maybe include a fishing license and trail permit then all happy?

A priority that will require significant engineering and environmental impact studies. Plus the whole route will need to be upgraded for higher speed trains. And don’t forget the overpasses that will need to be built. This is a dream at best for the Liberals.

Where did Tommy go?

Maybe your wife is extra smart? Now you have to house clean rather then sled wax and tunnel polish.

Before switching to boots without removable liners I used Acton Prarie. They were very popular with a lot of the ice fishing guys I knew. In wet slushy conditions all the time and warm feet. Acton Explorer was also very good boot. It was a little firmer rubber then the Prarie.

Muck Arctic Sport boot On sale at Cabelas for $129.00 Good to -40c I have had a very similar style for years and Never had wet or cold feet.

Why fill it early and have ATVs and Jeep rip up the trails. Fill it last minute and less damages to worry about later.