Turbo Doo Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 For you Facebookless here. We all see how PBR RIDERS are doing in Cochrane, heres an update from Kap snow rovers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Voyant Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 They are in the process of buying a brusher to help with this task.....not sure when they'll be taking delivery. As you can see in the pics, tracks going AROUND the downed trees.....grrrrrr. A little help would be nice. Cutting a branch or a limb or a small tree here and there does not expose you to liability. Riding a closed trail does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Claire Voyant said: They are in the process of buying a brusher to help with this task.....not sure when they'll be taking delivery. As you can see in the pics, tracks going AROUND the downed trees.....grrrrrr. A little help would be nice. Cutting a branch or a limb or a small tree here and there does not expose you to liability. Riding a closed trail does. A big X2... Edited November 30, 2019 by IQ TURBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Claire Voyant said: They are in the process of buying a brusher to help with this task.....not sure when they'll be taking delivery. As you can see in the pics, tracks going AROUND the downed trees.....grrrrrr. A little help would be nice. Cutting a branch or a limb or a small tree here and there does not expose you to liability. Riding a closed trail does. Unfortunately, the non volunteer people who ride closed trails don't give a damn about anybody but themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtserider Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Unfortunately, the non volunteer people who ride closed trails don't give a damn about anybody but themselves. And this is why top level volunteers say screw this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Well, to be fair, how many trail riders have a saw or axe on their sled? They may have brought one if they knew it was like this, but if they knew it was like that - they likely would have stayed home. So that cuts both ways... There is a writ on this very subject in the front of the current issue of (I think) SnowTech. Me and my boy took a pass through - what I believe is known as "Trail 7" north of Wawa a few years ago and there was deadfall everywhere! We cut our way through quite a bit, but started running out of daylight, and Shirley someone with a chainsaw could make 5x the progress that we were. I don't know if we were almost through the worst of it, or just getting to the bad spot, but we did clear many fells. I later seen it posted that they had gotten that trail open - maybe a year later (?) for the first time in many years - because it was all fell in! LOL! There was this day in 12/99 that we did ride on through tho. I'm kind'a of the mind that much of it really wouldn't need cut down tho? With the guards on the groomers, I would think that it would knock the snow off of them and they could start to retract, usually after the sun comes out tho... ??? This was between the Cow and Montreal Rivers I believe. It was the only spot like this that I can recall. Actually - this pic may have been taken when we stopped for an oncoming groomer up from Searchmont. They were however cutting the sapplings too. Prolly better in the long run? Edited November 30, 2019 by Ox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Voyant Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ox said: Well, to be fair, how many trail riders have a saw or axe on their sled? They may have brought one if they knew it was like this, but if they knew it was like that - they likely would have stayed home. So that cuts both ways... There is a writ on this very subject in the front of the current issue of (I think) SnowTech. Me and my boy took a pass through - what I believe is known as "Trail 7" north of Wawa a few years ago and there was deadfall everywhere! We cut our way through quite a bit, but started running out of daylight, and Shirley someone with a chainsaw could make 5x the progress that we were. I don't know if we were almost through the worst of it, or just getting to the bad spot, but we did clear many fells. I later seen it posted that they had gotten that trail open - maybe a year later (?) for the first time in many years - because it was all fell in! LOL! There was this day in 12/99 that we did ride on through tho. I'm kind'a of the mind that much of it really wouldn't need cut down tho? With the guards on the groomers, I would think that it would knock the snow off of them and they could start to retract, usually after the sun comes out tho... ??? This was between the Cow and Montreal Rivers I believe. It was the only spot like this that I can recall. Actually - this pic may have been taken when we stopped for an oncoming groomer up from Searchmont. They were however cutting the sapplings too. Prolly better in the long run? "Back in the day...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ox said: Well, to be fair, how many trail riders have a saw or axe on their sled? They may have brought one if they knew it was like this, but if they knew it was like that - they likely would have stayed home. So that cuts both ways... There is a writ on this very subject in the front of the current issue of (I think) SnowTech. Me and my boy took a pass through - what I believe is known as "Trail 7" north of Wawa a few years ago and there was deadfall everywhere! We cut our way through quite a bit, but started running out of daylight, and Shirley someone with a chainsaw could make 5x the progress that we were. I don't know if we were almost through the worst of it, or just getting to the bad spot, but we did clear many fells. I later seen it posted that they had gotten that trail open - maybe a year later (?) for the first time in many years - because it was all fell in! LOL! There was this day in 12/99 that we did ride on through tho. I'm kind'a of the mind that much of it really wouldn't need cut down tho? With the guards on the groomers, I would think that it would knock the snow off of them and they could start to retract, usually after the sun comes out tho... ??? This was between the Cow and Montreal Rivers I believe. It was the only spot like this that I can recall. Actually - this pic may have been taken when we stopped for an oncoming groomer up from Searchmont. They were however cutting the sapplings too. Prolly better in the long run? Ox, to be fair they shouldn't be out riding on closed trails! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Ox, to be fair they shouldn't be out riding on closed trails! If it's Crown land, who does it bother? I've been brushing and clearing the section of trail I did today, for several years. Today was the first time as an official club volunteer. Is there any difference? Its crown land so No. Anyone and their dog can ride them (in fact 2 sleds with 3 hunters were on the trails today, and 2 weeks ago too). Hydro may have a different perspective on the subject, but anywhere else is free pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Techdenis007 said: If it's Crown land, who does it bother? I've been brushing and clearing the section of trail I did today, for several years. Today was the first time as an official club volunteer. Is there any difference? Its crown land so No. Anyone and their dog can ride them (in fact 2 sleds with 3 hunters were on the trails today, and 2 weeks ago too). Hydro may have a different perspective on the subject, but anywhere else is free pass. Your right about Crown Land. What i am not for, is tresspassing on trails that are closed on private property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Buy a frigging Fiskars folding saw! https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fda.lowes.ca%2Fwebassets%2Fimages%2F831990_09837984_001_m.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowes.ca%2Fproduct%2Fhand-pruning-saws%2Ffiskars-fiskars-6-folding-pruning-saw-831990&tbnid=W0qg2Sl18UsirM&vet=1&docid=7NdZ-tdFTdEuuM&w=300&h=300&q=fiskars folding saw&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim I wouldnt ride w/o it. Ticks me off when you're trimming a tree back & riders go by oblivious to your efforts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Techdenis007 said: If it's Crown land, who does it bother? I've been brushing and clearing the section of trail I did today, for several years. Today was the first time as an official club volunteer. Is there any difference? Its crown land so No. Anyone and their dog can ride them (in fact 2 sleds with 3 hunters were on the trails today, and 2 weeks ago too). Hydro may have a different perspective on the subject, but anywhere else is free pass. Agreed that its fair game on Crown Land Denis however as IQ mentions riding closed trails on private property is not right. If you are doing "club work" officially or not, no problem. The trouble we have here in the south is that trail often goes across fields with winter crops that can be damaged if there isn't enough snow cover. As you know there is a reason they are marked closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Agreed that its fair game on Crown Land Denis however as IQ mentions riding closed trails on private property is not right. If you are doing "club work" officially or not, no problem. The trouble we have here in the south is that trail often goes across fields with winter crops that can be damaged if there isn't enough snow cover. As you know there is a reason they are marked closed. Totally agree PLC....By all means if your a volunteer on closed trails doing trail work, have at it. Crown land is well, a toss up, but private property is the one that irks me. Closed is closed, unless your a volunteer like i stated.. Edited December 1, 2019 by IQ TURBO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, IQ TURBO said: Totally agree PLC....By all means if your a volunteer on closed trails doing trail work, have at it. Crown land is well, a toss up, but private property is the one that irks me. Closed is closed, unless your a volunteer like i stated.. x2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Voyant Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I can't be bothered to get involved in the "crown land" vs. "private property" unavailable trails argument. I doubt the folks who are riding now launched their sleds directly on crown land. I can almost guarantee that between their house and said crown land, they've crossed several properties that are privately owned. Pack a f***ing folding saw and give the club an hour of your time, for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupkids Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 hours ago, revrnd said: Buy a frigging Fiskars folding saw! https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fda.lowes.ca%2Fwebassets%2Fimages%2F831990_09837984_001_m.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowes.ca%2Fproduct%2Fhand-pruning-saws%2Ffiskars-fiskars-6-folding-pruning-saw-831990&tbnid=W0qg2Sl18UsirM&vet=1&docid=7NdZ-tdFTdEuuM&w=300&h=300&q=fiskars folding saw&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim I wouldnt ride w/o it. Ticks me off when you're trimming a tree back & riders go by oblivious to your efforts. I have found the best way to get help is drop a tree across the trail. Riders will usually help clear the tree so they can continue on their ride. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, soupkids said: I have found the best way to get help is drop a tree across the trail. Riders will usually help clear the tree so they can continue on their ride. I'll keep that in mind LOL I cleared a dead balsam on E107 this summer. It had been down for quite a while as you could see how the ATVs had ground it into the dirt. How hard is it to throw 1 of these into a UTV? Heck even a SxS has enough room. Mind you it would reduce the size of beverage cooler you can carry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason T Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Trails in Sudbury area are same, will be lots of brushing required. Hope the warmer temps and sun will melt off some of the ice and most will return upright naturally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupkids Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Jason T said: Trails in Sudbury area are same, will be lots of brushing required. Hope the warmer temps and sun will melt off some of the ice and most will return upright naturally. What trail is that and where ? We will have to get out for a ride this winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Back on topic of kap snow rovers updates for the facebookless.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Who moved my posts?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turbo Doo Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Another update.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Voyant Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Still waiting for enough ice on the river crossing by the mill in Kap. Got the temps now. Believe a couple of volunteers were out there drilling, measuring and staking yesterday. Any day now..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Doo Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Claire Voyant said: Still waiting for enough ice on the river crossing by the mill in Kap. Got the temps now. Believe a couple of volunteers were out there drilling, measuring and staking yesterday. Any day now..... Thanks for the updates.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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