Wildman Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Congrats to Longlac, I see they are limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turbo Doo Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Congrats to Longlac, I see they are limited Great news. Hats off to the clubs and volunteers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yeah I was glad to see Longlac to have trails open, I sure wish they had a link to Hornepayne. there is not missing much and I think it a logging road that is there. The old trail is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Todays OFSC makes opening a "new" trail a process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Todays OFSC makes opening a "new" trail a process X2 even old trails that where only closed a few years and haven't changed... only brush that has grown. I guess they know what's good for us... we are not the one's having to go to court for stupid people suing us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 X2 even old trails that where only closed a few years and haven't changed... only brush that has grown. I guess they know what's good for us... we are not the one's having to go to court for stupid people suing us Todays push is on rationalization they must have hired someone from CP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yeah I was glad to see Longlac to have trails open, I sure wish they had a link to Hornepayne. there is not missing much and I think it a logging road that is there. The old trail is still there. And I believe there is still gas in Hillsport, along with Accommodations, which would maybe encourage more traveling traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yeah I was glad to see Longlac to have trails open, I sure wish they had a link to Hornepayne. there is not missing much and I think it a logging road that is there. The old trail is still there. It's logged on both sides of Nagagami Lake, I've driven almost to the lake on the quad from the West side, all 10-20 year old clearcut, good solid logging roads. Some beaver swamps to worry about but decent terrain otherwise. I'd bet you can drive all the way to the lake on a bike in the summer from the East side. It'd be an easy route to groom, assuming someone wants to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Would be interesting to know when certain clubs (central / southern) opened last year and what's been the average over the past five years or so... I realize that last year was the exception. Looking forward to my first ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt17 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 From what I was told by some of the other operators that are still with the Hornepayne club from our side the run is 10-12 to Hillsport and no easy way to split up the trip for multiple operators. Not overly challenging but long. Not sure how it is from the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 From what I was told by some of the other operators that are still with the Hornepayne club from our side the run is 10-12 to Hillsport and no easy way to split up the trip for multiple operators. Not overly challenging but long. Not sure how it is from the other side. is it 10-12 one way or round trip Matt? The last time I rode it was in 09 I believe, and I can't honestly really remember the trail that well, I thought it was kinda twisty, I know it was on the north side. Still way less undertaking opening this route rather then the old A107. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I just zoomed in on the interactive guide, Longlac has the trail limited right into Hillsport, I don't think they went that far last year, I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt17 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 My understanding was one way. Apparently it was our longest trip and doing the A North up to Hwy 11 is about 7 hours one way. They often spent the night at Hillsport when grooming the trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooboy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 it's approx. 60-70 miles (not km's) from hornepayne to Hillsport one way, on winter trails depending on the route and logging. it would be a lot to groom round trip in one shot. Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 From what I was told by some of the other operators that are still with the Hornepayne club from our side the run is 10-12 to Hillsport and no easy way to split up the trip for multiple operators. Not overly challenging but long. Not sure how it is from the other side. Thank you Matt17 and Ski for the info!!! The thing that would of been good instead of take all the groomers from D-16 was to keep one and post it at hillsport and groom both sides. Groom one day stay over night or wait a few days then drive it back... do the same in the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Thank you Matt17 and Ski for the info!!! The thing that would of been good instead of take all the groomers from D-16 was to keep one and post it at hillsport and groom both sides. Groom one day stay over night or wait a few days then drive it back... do the same in the other direction. I think with time that could still happen Luc. Manpower could be a hurdle though. I think if Longlac/Geraldton keeps up the forward momentum, It could happen. There where just so many issues with the former district, it would have been hard to do it any other way. I don't think anyone expected that there was the dedication to move this far forward, and good for Michel and his very small crew. They actually remind me of you and Reg, Luc. The small crew that never gave up. They will win the battle if they keep doing what they are doing, and make the right decissions. They also fight permit compliance, many of the sleds in their group ride photos have no permits, but it is a work in progress. They have sold 104 permits, pre Nov 1, I say good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I heard that most of the groomers from d16 were junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I heard that most of the groomers from d16 were junk That is what I heard as well Bill, in fact the BR that I ran across north of Hillsport in 09 was blocking the trail, and waiting for the hydraulics to cool so they could continue on. It was extremely rough looking, one hell of a thing to be operating in the middle of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I saw them parked at the Shop Industrial in Sudbury.... I have pictures of them I will post them when I find them... they where looked sick. but there must of been on in the group that could of been good. I think with time that could still happen Luc. Manpower could be a hurdle though. I think if Longlac/Geraldton keeps up the forward momentum, It could happen. There where just so many issues with the former district, it would have been hard to do it any other way. I don't think anyone expected that there was the dedication to move this far forward, and good for Michel and his very small crew. They actually remind me of you and Reg, Luc. The small crew that never gave up. They will win the battle if they keep doing what they are doing, and make the right decissions. They also fight permit compliance, many of the sleds in their group ride photos have no permits, but it is a work in progress. They have sold 104 permits, pre Nov 1, I say good for them. I heard that most of the groomers from d16 were junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronOrange Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I've talked with Michel several times this year. He is one dedicated SOB and the real reason behind my "Plea for Help" thread. They are truly trying to get these trails open again and need some help from all of us. If you have been there you know how desolate the area is, for those of you that haven't been there, you should visit if the trails open again. BTW - I also heard that there was group that ran the old A107A last year, breaking trail all the way. If anyone knows of this happening again, please send me a PM, I would love to be able to ride it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Could be a busy Christmas/New Years break up there, eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 They're working on the Hearst trails too, but since everything is so top-secret here I can't say when any trails are going to open. I've offered 2 years in a row to volunteer, took the Groomer training course last year, had a very aggressive meeting with the club president last spring after a questionable e-mail I sent to district head. I'll not offer anymore, but I will absolutely share any news or info I can about our trail status and accomodations. Don't ask me my opinion about the Hearst club and execs ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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