PISTON LAKE CRUISER

Ox, do you think in 5 years from now, anyone is going to care if you took a weeks holiday? Any of your customers that would begrudge you a holiday may not be worth keeping anyway. JMHO

I can't speak for current but a few weeks ago we found the following: -NB308 had some road running the wasn't too much fun. -The D trail from Asterville to Trout Lake was a tough ride and especially from Hwy 17(Mr.Gas) which seems to be normal -If your wife isn't partial to tight twisty trails she probably won't like A104D -The Bonfield Club trails south of Lake Nosbonsing were amazing. -Everything else we were on was awesome except the trail from the A up into Mattawa which was real bad on a Tuesday

Great sled for Quebec where speed limit is 70. Can you just imagine riding the trail from LSQ to Chibougamau with a 70 KPH sled or the C trail from SRF to Timmins.

The Portage on Trout Lake Road (Hwy. 63) has parking and there used to be parking on Sand Dam Road north of the City on Hwy. 11 where the 2nd trail crosses the hwy. . I'm not sure if there is still parking there or not.

Sorry to hear that. Somebody needs to get in touch with the equipment manager at the OFSC and let them know what has and what is going on with your groomer situation. This is beyond belief. Your clubs' issues were discussed in a Feb.24th post on the OFSC Facebook page called Grooming Equipment 101 where they where they were explaining about different types of groomers. It had little effect as a new post last week explained how expensive it was moving groomers around and various other excuses.

Is that your groomer or a replacement sent to help you out?

Really? Conestoga Lake and Arthur were open Saturday.

Revrnd who used to be active on this forum has been manufacturing and selling a small hammer for a number of years made especially for tunnel ice removal. It has some type of hard plastic surfaces that protect the tunnel from damage. If anyone is interested I can get in touch with him.

It was but alas the hospital saw through the scheme and cut them off. LOL

The longevity of your track vs. others mentioned is no doubt partly due to the chassis it is in and possibly speeds ran.

I am frustrated since this is the most snow we have had all winter. Elmira / St.Clements trails had only been open 3 day this winter. We lost 2-3 days earlier on due to a groomer management issue. I understand that its going to be 4 today. The thing is if the groomer had started anytime after 1AM Saturday and did 1 pass we would have been good for the day and evening Saturday. The clubs do a lot of hours of work and to loose one day in a short season is poor. JMHO

Our groomer is sitting in the shed and we know it won't be out on Sunday.

To bad you can't deal with your dealer but you could always try contacting another dealer who may have what you want coming.

Thanks for posting this map Sledguy74. It brings back lots of great memories. The Waterloo Sno-Plan was started by a few dedicated sledder's from our local area clubs. I'm pretty sure that this was the first attempt at Central Grooming in Southern Ontario. The Waterloo Snow Plan was part of The Golden Triangle Snowmobile Association which if memory serves at one time consisted of 13 clubs between Guelph and Stratford areas. The Algoma Snow Plan was first and then the Sudbury Trail followed as the first 2 Central grooming Associations in Ontario I believe.

If they aren't carrying fuel, they may need to go through Mattawa for gas in both directions depending on what sled and how they ride or fuel at Big Moose Camp on the ride via the A trail. Its only about 4-5 minutes off the A trail on Lake Nosbonsing.

The Timmins F/B page just said ASAP

The Stonecliffe and Sudbury days aren't too bad at about 350 km depending on where you are staying in North Bay. The Liskeard day would be about 400 km.+ but has more fast sections. If you have been to Mattawa, you know the trails you will be on for the most part are not like the C trail north out of Timmins. On the Stonecliffe the only convenient place to fuel on the way is in Mattawa via A112A unless you go via Lake Nosbonsing and then you can get fuel at Big Moose Camp (follow black stakes off the Lake trail right to the pump). Where are you planning to stay in North Bay? Riding out to head north is a chore (IMO) if staying up on the Lakeshore. There is always more snow up over the hill on the north side of N.B. but the A112A and the A trail east have been pretty good the last while.

We better get used to those funky self serve tanks. They will no undoubtedly become the only alternative in many areas as time goes on. Fortunately, there are already 2 of them that I have been using in our local riding area with trails to or past them.

It's not a bad idea but as you mention "too much a stretch". Adding that classification and doing it properly would require club volunteers to patrol their trails a lot more often. In many if not most clubs, those who would have the time to do these extra patrols are older retired people that in many cases are already over volunteered and/or don't have the $ to pay for fuel and sled expenses to do so. Have you noticed the pictures of various club volunteers in front of the OFSC dog and pony show trailer. There's a lot of grey hair showing.

Personally, I've never changed a ride plan because a trail was marked yellow.

At some point long past, one would think the appropriate person(s) at the OFSC would have made other arrangements for NEGB to have a fit groomer to use this season. Somebody somewhere has dropped the ball.

According to OFSC policy, club trails in Ontario are not to be opened in any colour until they have been inspected as to condition and signage by an appropriate individual from said club, signed off on by that individual and the signed paperwork sent to the district office. I believe this procedure has been in place for quite a number of years.

Theoretically you are correct but since we already have riders who believe a trail permit gives them the right to ride any trail anytime, I believe that having only Red and Green trails would mean a dramatic increase in red riders. Maybe more education is needed for the club volunteers and groomer captains that make the call on the colour posted.

If you are speaking about the red C101D to Foleyet, according to the Timmins FB page it is due to a large washout that is in the process of being repaired.

If it was open and closed only then wouldn't there be many many more people riding closed trails and causing extra grief for enforcement and and additional danger for volunteers working on the trails. Quebec has 4 different trail ratings.