Viper700 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thinking of buying an 2010 etc 600 ren trail. My one sled has 15000km on it now, so I figured it is time for a change. I figured the monkey hasn't managed to destroy this particular engine so it must be fairly durable?? I need something that I can ride two up with once in awhile and like to play in the deep stuff when the weather cooperates. Anyone have any comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgjnolan Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Make sure you can add a two-up seat to that sled. It only has the 1.25" lug, so I wouldn't go into too deep of snow unless you upgrade the track to 1.50" track and still be able to do some trail riding. MXZGUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I have not had the opportunity to blow up an etec. I did have a SDI and I did not blow it up. So good news there. I know have the 4tec. It has its first few kilometres today, so far, so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark Biter Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I love my 600 etec adr, but then again I am a cautious rider and let hubby do all the crazy stuff on his mxz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fast4u Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I don't have one but I hear they are a great sled. My only concern is from what I have read changing a spark plug is not something you can do on the side of a trail? I know they warranty the plugs for some time but a warranty dosen't help when your broken on the trail. Once again I have read this as one of the bad things, how true or how hard it is to change a plug I really don't know but if it is that hard I would stick with a sdi or go Yamaha 4 stroke my buddy has a Apex what a awesome sled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceman Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Apex LTX gives you a longer footprint as well as a longer seat for that once and a while two up thing...And those 150 ponies will certainly move you right along. 4 stroke and bulletproof. You can also probably find an 09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper700 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Thanks faceman for the report. I have an 03 viper with 15000km as one of my sleds, so I will definatly take alook at yamaha again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giddy UP Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 We have 2 Etechs. The first one has almost 9,000km s on it - the 2nd one has approx 5,000kms on it. No problems and we LOVE THEM! Also - 5 others in our group have also purchased them and love them as well. Besides being great on fuel and oil - they are light (definitely lighter than the Yammy), easy to handle and handle the deep powder well! I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the XP platform or the Etech engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash 800 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooer Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? Theoretically, the direct injection two strokes should outlast four strokes. The historical problems of the two stroke are not problems with direct injection. I say theoretically because I am speaking in general terms, the 2TEC implementation may have flaws. Though I am excited to see where this technology will go in the future. Hopefully the push for four strokes has not killed off the future potential that the two stroke has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowTouringGuy Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. UTS says that's because you ride like a girl. :P :poke: :P :itwasuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. UTS says that's because you ride like a girl. :P :poke: :P :itwasuts: A girl that you can't keep up with :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowTouringGuy Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. UTS says that's because you ride like a girl. :P :poke: :P :itwasuts: A girl that you can't keep up with :poke: She doesn't ride too fast for me. I ride to Slow for Her :P :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. UTS says that's because you ride like a girl. :P :poke: :P :itwasuts: :curse: Well, I know I ride faster than YOU and some that try to follow, but end up in the rhubarb! :P :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowTouringGuy Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Giddy up, that's awesome. We bought 2 4tecs last year and put over 9000kms on both of them. Flawless as well. With that kind of mileage on the 2 stroke do you think they will need any kind of rebuild? I know on previous 2 strokes climbing above the 10K mark was nearing the rebuilding point. I had 10,000 MILES on my 06 SDI with no issues. UTS says that's because you ride like a girl. :P :poke: :P :itwasuts: :curse: Well, I know I ride faster than YOU ..... :P :poke: Well that doesn't make you a member of a very exclusive club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fixit Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 rhubarb???? hahaha thats a play on words!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevRiders Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well I won't comment on the BRP sled quality since I don't own one. I will comment on the personal experience I had with my Seedoo Jet Boat and BRP customer Service. Horrible is just too kind, and for that alone I would recommend Yamaha. Even the dealers admit customer service has declined since the BRP family sold the recreational division. Hopefully they are listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good I have only put on maybe 20 miles. But so far I love my 2010 E-tech. As far as service goes, I having been riding Ski-Doo since 1990 and have great experiences with Doo. I personally have not had any motor issues since 1995. Yamadude it's unfortunate you have had bad experiences with Doo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good I have only put on maybe 20 miles. But so far I love my 2010 E-tech. As far as service goes, I having been riding Ski-Doo since 1990 and have great experiences with Doo. I personally have not had any motor issues since 1995. Yamadude it's unfortunate you have had bad experiences with Doo. They all break buy what makes you happy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good I have only put on maybe 20 miles. But so far I love my 2010 E-tech. As far as service goes, I having been riding Ski-Doo since 1990 and have great experiences with Doo. I personally have not had any motor issues since 1995. Yamadude it's unfortunate you have had bad experiences with Doo. They all break buy what makes you happy . You're right Bill, all brands are pretty good these days, it's all a personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevRiders Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 No doubt on the personal preferences! Chevy trucks,John Deere tractors,Honda quads and Ski-doo's....Priceless!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good I have only put on maybe 20 miles. But so far I love my 2010 E-tech. As far as service goes, I having been riding Ski-Doo since 1990 and have great experiences with Doo. I personally have not had any motor issues since 1995. Yamadude it's unfortunate you have had bad experiences with Doo. They all break buy what makes you happy . Yes, everything does break, some break faster than others, and that is preferance, however there needs to be a distinction between quality and customer service. I mean, if you buy a new sled, and something breaks during the warrenty period, you would expect the company to honour that and fix it right. Well not BRP, they give the dealers way too much power and do not police their actions. I mean if a bilge pump fails during the warrenty period, is it up to the local dealer to decide? I mean how useless can one be. BRP response to me was, they have no authority over their dealers, give me a break people, you are the maunufacturer that is letting your dealers give you a bad name. Yes, If I brought my problems back to the dealer I purchased from, I would not have this issue, but that is not the point is it? It is customer service, piss poor, and yes something I guess BRP has neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Bought a 2010 and just got a chance for 40 miles this week...so far super impressed lot'sa giddy up no choke to bother with..easy starting clean running machine cant tell much about milage but appears real good I have only put on maybe 20 miles. But so far I love my 2010 E-tech. As far as service goes, I having been riding Ski-Doo since 1990 and have great experiences with Doo. I personally have not had any motor issues since 1995. Yamadude it's unfortunate you have had bad experiences with Doo. They all break buy what makes you happy . Yes, everything does break, some break faster than others, and that is preferance, however there needs to be a distinction between quality and customer service. I mean, if you buy a new sled, and something breaks during the warrenty period, you would expect the company to honour that and fix it right. Well not BRP, they give the dealers way too much power and do not police their actions. I mean if a bilge pump fails during the warrenty period, is it up to the local dealer to decide? I mean how useless can one be. BRP response to me was, they have no authority over their dealers, give me a break people, you are the maunufacturer that is letting your dealers give you a bad name. Yes, If I brought my problems back to the dealer I purchased from, I would not have this issue, but that is not the point is it? It is customer service, piss poor, and yes something I guess BRP has neglected. Sounds like a bad dealer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.