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Cool! I had piles of these and dont know where they are but if I find em, i'll post em. From what I remember Snow 1 was awesome back in the 80's and seemed to set the bar for what OFSC trails were to become. I never rode Quebec back then so? But in Ontario that trail was amazing. Blew a few engines running it 😱

Thinking of your battle Bill, soldering up some more support from Markham. All the best

I remember when that place burned down. It took a monumental effort and provincial support to rebuild it period correct. Seems the classic Canadiana experience has lost its spot these days. The flashy miami bling bling style seems to be swathing over. Ya know, whatever makes you look richer in pics on social media type junk. The classic Canadian experience doesnt play that role well. It sure does play well to anyone who gets a real taste of it personally though. Look at what Lisa Rinas father in law accomplished with lake Joe

4lbs? I wonder what the head lifting limit is? Im sure I wont have to wonder long. Someone will do it, its a guarantee. While Polaris will melt down before its limit is reached the Rotax will lift heads. How do I know? Ethanol injection makes latent heat evaporation during atomization. In laymens terms it makes the fuel charge denser, while lowering temperatures. It also has octane of 110 or so, but its really the latent heat evaporation that makes it amazing under boost. Water inj sort of does the same thing its old as moses in the gofast car world its nothing new. The fact that BRP made all this hi-tech racer mod stuff factory equipment blows my mind. The modders are going to whip sidewinders for breakfast lunch and dinner with these things. Two huge thumbs up

Wishing you strength Bill

And the award for the heart of Gold goes to; WildBill. A true blue gentleman here folks, what a rare treasure. Incredible story thanks for sharing. With such a strong, resilient, and positive attitude you have all the odds in your favour. You and your family are in our prayers

Screw sled permits. Rider permits are the way to go just like plate to owner days its a zillion times better. Rider buys permit and rides whatever sled he wants. Same with insurance, insure the rider not the machine save for fire/theft/collision

I was out of line, this was not the thread for this. Feel free to edit it all out other than the initial post

I cant say much either, it will boil my blood. Trudeau is a classless Idiot, whos morally bankrupt

As for gas maybe the OFSC could start looking into Card Lock type filling stations? Priced accordingly of course and premium fuel only of course and NO ETHANOL of course. Might be a way to keep that run open?

Wont happen. Same crap happened at Friday harbour the developers sued the local landowners for legal costs who took legal action to stop the development. Take Adamson case and fees he would be WISE to not ignore the paperwork and simply fight it out. He will win we do not have a police system that works for some for "free" and others who must "pay" If that were the case how about billing all those G20 protesters

Say what you want about me, its rather interesting that all of you cant get my comments out of your head, even if they are blocked? Maybe you ought to think about that a while and see if you can make sense of it. Stay safe everyone. Trudeau has failed Canada on epic levels, only completely lost people wont admit that now.

Automobiles are subsidized. Boats and sleds are not. The value of "toys" is high because since Mcsquinty/Wynnebag and Trudope have put our credit into such bad shape our purchasing power is now about 50% and dropping fast of what it was ten years ago. This is only the beginning.... hold my beer Its gonna get fugly soon

Great looking sled! Launch control with no traction control? That aint launch control thats a stutter box. Take a GTR for a spin, thats launch control.

Right I was wondering about pump gas and reliability and also curious how much hp was gained.

Turbo Doo did you get yours performance tuned?

These events are not happening at levels to suggest there are not resources in place for this. OPP chase sleds with Helicopters for crying out loud plus a 15K fine is a GUARANTEE of court date, NO ONE is paying that on the nose and that means a full court day for the officer/s involved. A quick 1hr drive with the perp to the farm or property in question with a cel phone to record is much cheaper, less police resources, applies EQUALLY to the idiots and the plain ignorant ( who I fear are the main problem ) and this lesson taught will not be forgotten either. Heavy fines is not the way to prevention, its only going to stop re-offenders and marketing a message of heavy fines etc as a deterrent is also VERY expensive and a huge time suck. Put the police to WORK doing service again. Off ass, knock on doors, hear farmer explain,. apologize and have it written for second offense? 15k no arguments here

On this same line of thinking say the OPP catches the idiot who ran round the property scaring all the livestock and whatnot. Instead of a fine how about marching the fool back to the peoples property, escort this person right to the door and tell them to apologize ON VIDEO and PUBLISH that on the OPP twitter feed. If the apology is insincere there is also a fine, but the idea that we are trying to improve relations to land owners as a federation would be served well by this, plus it makes the coppers look like they are invested in improving the situation not polarizing things further through hate and tax bills.

Mental state is a flux for all of us. I meant no offense to you or anyone else by that statement. My efforts are to help get some understanding of why some of these tracks all over private property issues are happening. Adjectives are a tricky thing and here it seems mine have offended you, so I am sorry that happened. That said if we do not look at causes for these property owner abused issues? We cannot understand them and cannot work towards prevention. Mental health issues can make people do things that are not well received to others and tracks on private property is part of that and anyone who does this type of thing on purpose? Is having mental issues, period or they wouldnt do it. Granted this doesnt mean they are depressed or anxiety ridden or whatever label suits ya I dont place that upon these people, you, or anyone for that matter. Merely pointing the attention to the problem is mental issues and thats where this is won or lost. My aim is for better respect and relations across the board through understanding each other.

I used to say it was drunks, then I thought maybe it was druggies, now? I say its mental issues. Add any mind altering products to that mix and Christmas brings the best out in some of these unwell in the head types and well, heres the result. Most likely that is, we can only guess and beg understanding of the land owners in these unfortunate situations. This being an idiotic act is a fact however

Twice every year too. Worse yet the CVOR program was put in place to improve road safety yet the injury related accidents with CVOR registered vehicles WENT UP noticeably and have STAYED UP. The program kills people, literally yet you give these bureaucratic goons some power to harass people to bill and collect in the name of safety? Well your gonna get harassed and billed because its about safety dammit! Screw the facts!!! We have a mandate to harass and bill you because its about SAFETY and anyone who argues against this is making a false social construct and against public safety!!!

Upping the fines will certainly prevent re-offenders but I cringe at the thought of the newb idiot who simply doesn't know open from closed and other assorted relatively innocent ignorant types as mentioned in post 2 there. The times I have seen things like this happen was usually late at night and usually by types who were going to ride free or die trying if you catch my drift. I worry about that a bit too. Makes me think of a few fellas I rode with years ago, one of em offed himself in the end he didnt care about nuthin and it wasn't just sleds he thrashed around. I suppose this is the main concern is the old saying about a few bad apples which makes me wonder how to improve PR in the face of these unfortunate events? Theres got to be some way of communicating a message to the landowners as well as somehow communicating to the wing nuts who are doing this. Heck its a dang tricky situation and so hard on the clubs man I feel for you guys who have to re route trails and sometimes close em. Sad and avoidable.

This is a hard solve that has many factors. I dont really think its worse than earlier I think its less patience from land owners, and WAYYYY more exposure for each instance than before. For instance, a boon docking idiot could rip through a whole farm field ten years back and that farmer, area, and club are all aware but land owners 200km away didnt hear about it and because they had some years without issues? All good. Now a land owner posts up and EVERY land owner sees, relates to "that time when" and the anger boils across all land owners equally so the patience we used to get is GONE and gone for good. This exposure PR problem is the biggest issue with sledding, and ALL enjoyable motorized performance sports imo. The all watching eye of internet posting trolls is a huge wall of trouble and getting worse. As for the idiots doing these events? I agree its mostly a "dont give a rats about it" problem as well as a "bad boy look at me hold my beer" problem. Not new, just worse because 18 today? Behave more like 13 in my day. So it goes. Wish I had more to offer I really dont have much other than talk to these young fools and try and get some sense into em. It takes a village to raise a child and anger towards them? Will only make it worse imo. People seem to enjoy anger, blame and finger pointing more though. That said when I say talk? I aint talking fizzy bunnies and fluffly clouds either, just suggesting no baseball bats.

Weight and driving habits make the biggest difference in fuel mileage over aero concerns. Aero helps, but not as much as dropping pounds does. Triton elite is a nice trailer imo