Strong Farmer

What do you think number is in ontario. I have heard any where from 130 ish to 320,000 sleds registered in ontario. I personally thought It was around 180,000 lately but not sure and permits are below 80 for sure, but no real numbers coming from ofsc lately either.

Great to know. Is electron going to be riding again too this winter. Hopefully you get snow in mount snowy.

Merry Xmas everyone. Decided to take advantage of mild weather and a cook a fresh 8 Ib chicken on smoker today.

Blake exactly right. I talked to mike about this at golf and ski in mattawa. He owns a section of pipeline in that area too. If riders don’t respect and stay on trail, we will loose these key trails. Thanks for heads up on pine lane drive. Never know when you encounter roads, if not familiar with area.

It isn’t fuel your coil is going bad on sled. Had the same problem with my 900. Changing fuel hids problem for abit but it will come back and strand you eventually. Dealer looked up code and changed it. You will have reduce power too and fuel economy not as good as it should be. I thought 900 was a dog compared to etec and it would randomly shut off on me and always restarted and everything seemed fine. I took it straight back to dealer after riding it for almost a season and they were able to find code and fix it right. Good luck. Now it runs fine on regular fuel, fuel economy is way better and no more shutting off and having to restart it in middle of trail

Hope next year the D trail can be resolved. Always one of best trails to ride gravenhurst North. Guess we all drop in port Sydney now.

I like winter diesel. Burns so much cleaner with higher kerosene content, but has less energy then summer fuel as a result. Barely tell it is a diesel now.

So anyone know any permit numbers for this season so far. Are sales above 50,000 to date on full season permits?

Usually always open for meals and reservations. One day I was running late and called from trail in afternoon. They made me a nice supper and left it in room for us. Still hot too. Barely found our way in, in a snow storm that day.

I tow a tent trailer and my 102” by 12 foot aluminium enclosed. Tent trailer don’ even know it is there and fuel economy is close to driving around without it, around 17 L per hundred.My enclosed, I average close to 25L per hundred km’s. Tows better when full too, less bouncing around behind truck. Gm 5.0, 2010 half ton. My 2002 Jeep can do same job on a similar amount of fuel too. So I don’t see a big difference, between two engines to be honest.

It is mostly middle class that own snowmobiles, not wealthy. Also snowmobile puts way more back into economy then what is given back to sport. Government subsidizes lots of things that never even turn a profit. Ilt in Kitchener is a prime example of that. We all pay for it but only a select few mostly seniors and students and low income people use it now.

Mine is 102” wide. If you have new power mirror’s that extend out or can add them to vehicle, it is worth it. I am 12 feet long and can easily get two long tracks in. I like wider trailer because it is easier to navigate parking lots, and easier to park at hotels and resorts (takes abit less space) Just seeing Down sides is a challenge with regular mirrors. 11 feet will be a challenge to strap and secure long tracks and close door. Can be done but not much room to spare. I think 12 feet by 102 is new standard.

It has been tough going. We just finished last weekend. With high moisture and propane shortage it has been tough to dry corn down and get it into storage. I haven’t heard of any serious quality problems, allot better this year then last. We got lucky and majority of ours was all top grade, with good bushel weights.

I remember north east hope club getting one, when their groomer broke down. I believe the tractor and chains was a spare district had on hand. That was awhile ago though and did a good job on hard pack trails. I only seen it on trails once.

Ofsc would have an idea for sure. I am sure some of this knowledge is shared at Agm and will come to light eventually, hopefully not in a bad way near end of season either. Cross our fingers for a good winter for all areas of ontario.

ofsc knows current permit totals and I am sure mto knows how many snowmobilers bought Val tags this season. Be nice to see some real numbers that are up to date.

Looks great now just need to screw in some I-grips for extra traction on hard packed icy surfaces.

Been like that for awhile but enforcement only goes down it seems. Police departments are all Over budgets and under staffed and don’t want to spend any more time in court, fighting potential trespass fines is my guess. I know one volunteer around here recieved a ticket on his atv for crossing road without wearing a helmet while setting up trails. Talk about an expensive day.

Many departments don’t have sleds anymore either. So patrol is limited to road crossings and sitting in a patrol vehicle. Drones hovering above trail taking video might be more effective and sent fines out in mail, like red light camera. Just bill owner of the sled for 500 bucks. That would turn things around quick.

Same thing along pipe lines. All have landowners that are starting to get sensitive to free riders going all over place too.

Lets see how it works out in Manitoba. Some change is necessary No doubt. INo one knows what right approach going forward is. Early permit at a discount is starting to catch up to us and permit numbers aren’t growing anymore. So a different approach is necessary. I think there are around 160 k sleds registered in ontario and approx 52000 full season permits sold (just rough facts not sure on current numbers). I see panther has a rough estimate too. Does anyone know the real permit numbers and registered sleds in ontario for 2019 season? Also what permit numbers are for 2020 season. I see no press release from ofsc so maybe numbers are down again,, I dunno!

That is for sure. I don’t know circumstances besides he was sent out by himself at night. President is still a volunteer position though. Tragic what happened no Doubt.

Wow that is abit harsh.

Really difficult to solve this. Been happening for years but seems to get worse as smaller towns grow in population. Our road has at lest 3 times the vehicle traffic now, then it had 15 years ago. We now have more four way stops and stop lights around as well. I see more atv’s sitting around in trucks and trailers now too, and see a far bit getting driven on side of roads even though Wilmot has a ban on them. Some enforcement would be nice and less police around, since new Hamburg department was shut down Bottom line if they are traveling roads you know some are using trail system, unfortunately.

All terrible news for us southern riders. Real issue is government has cut funding to allot of programs within areas like grand river conversation authority and insurance is a major cost. As a result they want ofsc to fund liability insurance for whole year. Conestoga and Belwood areas were some of best areas for me to ride near home and many other riders too. I wonder if ofsc can survive without d5 and parts of 9?