Ox

March '08 (I think) me, my boy, and a chum were planning to make a huge ride from Hearst up to Moosonee, and if all was fine at that point, I wanted to run up the shoreline and bring the Albany back on return. Marc said that the Albany part wasn't worth the bother as there was nothing to see, but still, would be cool to doo it once eh? We had sleighs all in tow, all set to camp out at night. Enough spare gas to git 2 strokes from Albany all the way back to Hearst. We did leave the kitchen sink t'home, but I did have heat (if needed for whatever) many spare bearings and such, cots, dbl -30 sleeping bags for everybody. (From my experience, at least one of my -30's was cool at +20F sleeping on the snow, so) I put new (2 ring) pistons in my boys sled before we left as the compression was not what it could have been, and I'd had a 2st ATV die on a trip recently - and all I can figger is that the compression was just too low to start. Didn't want that to happen! All this prep werk, and not too far outta town, we had burnt down 2 of the 3 sleds already. (My boy's sled being the only one alive) Those flatslides are known to have a lean spot, and with the sleighs in tow, we were steady on the gas and just hitting that lean spot in the carb. We loaded back up and headed south. I decided that I wouldn't try that run again until I had a 4 stroke. I have ridden with a few 4 stroke sleds in the mountains. The heavy nose makes descending a big hill a bigger deal as the front end wants to settle into the snow that much more, making the descent seem even that much more steep. And when (not if) you git stuck, they are just that much heavier. Now with the 3" paddles, we don't git stuck NEAR like we did just one generation of sled before, but still. The 4 strokes that I have rode with were all turbo's. Sure, the OEM M11's that I posted recently, but also an RX1ton that the dealer in Gunnison had back in the day. That thing was amazing! We were at a big hill - Napoleon Pass I think. The snow had a slight crust on it that my ski's kept wanting to break through and try to fall over.... and under that was sugar. I think I had a 151 x 2 Challenger on at that time? I made it 1/3 of the way up the hill was all. My chum made it 1/2 way? Along comes What's-His-Name with the RX1 with a 165, and not only did he make the top, but he cought a lot of air up there as well! I'm sure he'd been over the top of that many times in his day, so he knew what was up there, but being an outsider, I would never hit the top like that, so that was REALLY amazing! Then another guy that I ride with - that makes the sled jacks - he had a 4str Phazer that he had a turbo put on. That was impressive for what it was, but I didn't expect him to have it next year. He blew a belt on "our" hill, and I went to help him with it, and with it laying over on the side (turning it back down the hill) he was dripping oil down onto the pipe. Not good.... 2 weeks later he rolled it down a hill and lodged it into a tree, and he was riding alone, and it caught farr and burnt to the ground. Not sure if I have a pic of that or not. I might - somewhere.... So, for my application - I have decided that maybe 4 strokes aren't for everyone. While I think I might like one for on trail use, I think I will stick to the 2 strokes, and the 850 seems to be built much stronger than traditional, and with fuel infection - that lean spot should be gone. So I may give that another shot one day. Although I am sure that a 4 stroke would be fine for the river run.

Boy, this sorta mirrors the concern aboot making a "living wage" at their part time job at Timmy's. Just like there are starter jobs, there are entry level machines, and a whole used market that runs from "barely ridden" to "popular local trail only" sled. Want a Mach Zed? Don't got 23 Large? Well, there are some mid 2000's "1000 CC" machines out there in the Rev chassis. Or an 800 trippple trippple from around 2000. Or maybe you settle for a good used MXZed in stead? Or, maybe you find a carbed 600 MXZed that is only a few years old for really cheap? It's not an all or none game here.... You don't HAVE to have a 28' fully enclosed and heated trailer, towed behind a new crew cab 1 ton diesel with 3 brand new snowmachines inside and all new gear to go ride.

My chum [still] has an [had 2] M11. Boy that thing Schidt and Git! Climb a hill - yep! But gitt'n it back DOWN the hill is a whole nother issue! I think that I can find a pic of a hill that he took all the snow off of in The Badlands. (Wawa) OK, I guess it didn't all slide down like I thought, just where he spit polished the rock I guess... Big pile'o snow at the bottom now!

A 130 is turbo'ed? And yet the same motor is in the M Zed @ 180? Good grief, what is it N/A? That must be a LOT of boost ???

Well, that cleaner pic does look more "cornery" than the grainy vid appeared.

That should git to 50 Klicks pretty easily.

I think you need to go watch that vid again! This guy was in the bush when he was hit! Not saying that this guy wasn't over the yellow line on a previous corner - maybe, but he Shirley wasn't left at this point. On the other hand, I don't see this being a line-of-sight issue. That wasn't a "corner" hardly at all. Just looks like the other guy was gauking at a GPS, or sumpthing in the bush, or .... Not that I can see the other guy, just saying that it doesn't appear to be an "overshot the corner" situation. Hopefully both guys left feet were OK! .

Don't overdrive your line of sight. It's that simple. Easy for me to say when I don't have a sled that will even think of keeping up with y'all.

Well - I gotta say - not much evidence of a curve there....

Not heard aboot Canada's numbers yet, but I did hear a report that said that the Yank's numbers were down to mid November numbers (before the big outbreak started). Since we are still well within "flu season" I never would have expected this _ this early. Seems like a WAY positive trend! Not sure that I would give much credit to the "vaccines" already either....

I don't understand "Compression Bump"? It sounds like you were on land?

Feb 17th? Isn't that abnormally early?

I don't like to stop on ice to begin with, let alone new ice!

Well that was vague....

I would hope that anyone with a "chromed out" trailer only drives it on overcast days, and if they EVER drive in bluebird sky days, that they only drive into the sun! Not that those days are plentifull around here, just sayin' ....

They delivered 5 hours away? Or your terminal is a long way from home?

Huh, well I guess it's not just the US eh? You see, Mrs. Ox went to some insurance seminar a cpl years ago, and one of the statements made there aboot the health care costs for Yanks was: "Only in the US is death an "option"." B/c we (as a whole) will invest huge sums of $ into staying alive, even if it's not a life worth living. I personally want no part in that.

Stony: Go back and read his first paragraph - slowly... 02: You should just tell her that you are almost as paranoid as she is.

Mine is up most all the time, but I'm not seeing the speeds that y'all are. .. but I haven't ran a windshield very often in years.

I am not sure that the one in WR was Chimo or not. Rev has it right tho - it shows up as the Continental now, and very well may have been back in the day as well. The restaurant (I absolutely despise the spelling of that werd!) is the truck stop right accrost the road. https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5943758,-85.2784475,3a,75y,348.5h,93.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbOj55GuUb_R4EmJJxQ3xDw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 .

Wore out an old Lazer SN45 (disguised as a Ski-Doo helmet back in the 90's) I bought a new HJC and hated it as it gave me ice cream headaches! Started buying up all the old Lazers like my old one on E-bay ever since. I doo NOT recommend that you follow suit - unless you are looking for a different size than I take.

I know that I saw the (a?) Chimo in Cochrane, but I just kan't think when I would have stayed there. Possibly when we went to Moosonee in the summer of 2001 (?) as I don't recall where we stayed that trip. Cpl other times we stayed at the NAI. I wonder if there was a new Chimo that went up beside the Husky out on the hwy near White River in the late 90's? I think that may be where I am thinking. I know that we parked our snowmachines in the service bay at the Husky overnight and stayed in the new motel next door. Same owners. Actually, that may have been '97 even. Maybe someone here can verify that? I looked on the online map for White River Husky, and I remember gassing up there, and then we seen a sign in the winder of the restaurant accrost the hwy advertising all-you-can-eat s'getti, and we seemed to think that was a good idea, so we mozied on over yonder. We both ordered the s'getti and I guess that neither of us had considered that you needed to order the sauce as a side option? B/c this stuff was 95% noodles. We ate some, and when we went to head out, we were both feeling awfully tired all of a sudden, and we started eyeing the motel back accrost the hwy, and so we went there and passed out for the night. I recall the motel being east of the Husky, but - that's been nigh 25 yrs ago, so I could be gitt'n a bit senile by now.... I see that the motel doesn't say Chimo, but that could have easily changed in that time. ??? .

Long, single level building, next to a Polaris (?) dealer, on the S side of the road, between the North Adventure Inn and town? Was the dealer maybe brand new aboot that timeline? Is that what I'm thinking?

IDK? Down here, you can search property info online at the county auditor's website. Maybe similar up there? Maybe I am cornfusing it with another Chimo elsewhere? This is next door to a snowmachine dealer of some flavour eh?

I'd agree with this. I haven't stayed in Cochran in quite some time, but I think the Chimo was brand new when we stayed there, and that must'a been prox 20 yrs ago. Must'a been in the summer tho?