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I am sure others would be more than happy to go buy skis to get there unit on the snow. Manufacture could offer an in store credit for the missing skis though in light of the situation and the part that is missing - not like a shock or gauge.

Cannot see you getting your sled unless it is complete. The only part that I have read about where a dealer released a sled is with different skis that what was supposed to be on it. Not saying it has not happened elsewhere of course though. Dealing with any distributor or manufacture in the last 12+ months, is the same for all. Other than missing or not getting parts, the new standard is where the price would normally be held at the old prices based on PO issued / quoted project, I am seeing price increases based on product delivered due to delays and increases "out of their control" - yes, most times I fight it and win, but not always. As for prices coming down after this is ever over, highly unlikely, but what you will see is more incentives or promotions in lieu of decreased prices - this is what I am hearing across the board as well. No one is getting anything from any manufacture as a result of this, other than frustrations. Challenging & frustrating times no doubt.

Yes, but doing a good deed now could become a hassle for you in the messed world we live in - sad. Still more to this story than a "thanks" though.

how about that!

I cannot complain with the dealer I have used - have not had any issues other than the guys that installed my glove box, it worked, just not the "correct" way...... Price was decent, received sled sooner than I honestly expected, received my B/O parts sooner than I expected, received my "free" post lock and received discounts on other parts that I bought.

So it is true..... And the dealer could play games with its clients based on when a sled is ready vs. who you are to them.

Some seem to think and share that the dealer decides on who get the VIN once sleds arrives at said dealer - which I find hard to believe and not accurate info at all - perhaps some shady dealers might try this, no idea.....

LOL....can't think that way, it will drive you nuts. Should be no reason lake running is not doable until the trails are set - I know also not the greatest, but better than nothing.

I am thinking you might need to reconsider that - district 7 looks to be an issue right now....but that might change in a few days.

This is what makes trips so worth it - but I get it, not for everyone either. I think if it came to it and all I could do was trips, I would still be doing it - but I also enjoy the local'ish day rides too.

I’m not overly familiar with Poo so not sure what system they use, but Iassume they didn’t change there throttle control, so might be a bad switch, harness or maybe throttle cable adjusted too tight causing this. Cable adjustment would be best case, otherwise dealing with possibly parts shortage to correct. Those that already have their units, I agree, it’s wouldn’t be a huge deal for me, but new units not delivered, dealers can’t release.

Tall Pines might be close, which means ASC must be too. Usually they are one of early ones to open.

Beautiful pictures. You skiing and sledding?

Good. should have double amount that though 👍.

This is good to hear that it is in fact being pushed at the OFSC level. Agree about the percentages as well & many people would rather see the resources fighting far worse things vs. us lowly sledders - but this is the agreement that was made, so I wonder what that two way discussion looks like & the rational for not using harsher fines. Even if the enforcement/presence is not increased, what is the rational of not making the fines for those caught breaking the rules A LOT more harsh - that can be used a much better tool to deter people from doing it. Did the MTO not just adopt the rules & fines set by the OFSC beforehand, if so, I would think changing/updating them now could be possible with the pressure coming from the OFSC based on submitting reasons that justify the change? Like anything else, change needs to start from within no doubt.....more that buy in, will make an impact. But the fine or penalty needs to match the infraction - right now it does not.

The thing with trespass is this falls into two categories that should be dealt with differently (I think). There is riding on a trail that is listed as closed - sometimes trail closes during a trip, etc...., or technical glitch on the system, etc.... Than there is knowingly riding off trail that is on private land i.e. farm field with crop or land owner that does not want sleds on that portion of land, etc....

I am wondering how hard this is being pushed by the OFSC as well.....

Yes, for sure and has been noted on a few occasions on other recent threads. However, as Nutter brought up, sometimes this message is not received very well or respectfully by the group not following the rules and there is now the possibility of a confrontation that most rather avoid or perhaps not equipped to deal with. The simple fact is there is no fear or penalty big enough right now to stop it - it is a joke what could happen to those not following. You have a can - sled is towed & hefty fine is issued You have no trail pass - sled is towed & hefty fine is issued You trespass - this one is likely a harder one to deal with, but a much bigger fine would go a long way

I have witnessed this on more occasions that should never happen - OPP not even looking at the trail pass, I am the one bringing it to their attention as the most important item based on trail usage and how the system works.

The campaign needs to be followed up with firm enforcement…. not just to get the bad apples reduced but to help put some sense of belonging back into those that volunteer and are deflated.

100 percent, but this has limitations on reach or hard heads - that’s where harder enforcement comes in to curve by catching those in the act and others hearing about those harder lines now being drawn.

You mean just asking all to follow the rules and insert pretty please just don’t work these days. There definitely needs to be some hard lines drawn and enforced to see any changes. I wonder if the OFSC encourages a softer approach so not to discourage new ridership, I know they don’t enforce things, but I’d assume their voices are heard at that level that encourages change.

Ya, there is definitely more to this than contacting the guys to say thanks - that could just be a public verbiage to say thanks & move on.

Were you shedding a tear there Nunz - I know you are a passionate man about the Poo and sledding ..... I see Kerry has been busy with his updates lately regarding the trails, accidents, etc.....

Yes, it is odd that it shows Red for the period they state it is open - but unless they get a snow fall every Thurs night to improve the bare trail, should it really be considered open?