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    • My thoughts exactly, it just works so good for me. I've been looking at the none R Turbo too, but figure for the price point difference and availability used, if I go that route I might as well have all the jam.  Seeing the turbo glow red hot under the hood on my sons last 2 sleds made me cringe lol 
    • Depends on what they determine "proper" coverage is and looks like. Again, that's a moving target and not the same for everyone. It's business decision. Like now, self insurance is reality - so you price your product accordingly.   Its clearer now for me how the MTO involvement ties into the bigger picture. But the offset to that - is they control the pricing of the permit, so you get what you get.    
    • Well, I'll stick with my comment. You probably don't remember before the MTO involvement when the OFSC was paying 8 million  dollars for insurance. If the OFSC was to dissolve that relationship what would insurance cost now for the proper coverage? There is little to no hope that even with permit increases the OFSC could afford it without a lot of government dollars and that is also not likely to happen in my opinion.
    • I have a 2016 ,1200 and also like it very much .Hard to upgrade when it just works .Im thinking 900 turbo ,not r model but not many used ones
    • Like anything with politics involved, it all depends on who's holding the approval pen at the time, and political and economic climate. This is the first time the MTO has not approved a permit price and structure recommendation from the OFSC since Bill 101 came to be.  There was a multi year threshold agreement in place if a certain criteria of need was meet, capped at 7% a season. But again, who holds pen decides.    Although sledding generates a huge amount of economic spin off, we are still a pimple in the grand scheme of things, with a none guaranteed head count of 80 to 100k participants in a province of 16 million. If everyone woven into the economic fabric of sledding in Ontario spoke up it would certainly help. I see that the Parry Sound Chamber of Commerce is now getting involved in the municipal trail closure issue effecting access into town, fantastic to see. 
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