nanoonanook Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 While out in the shop today, I was looking in my ZRT's owners manual and happend to notice a section on Tempering new sliders. It is the first time that I have heard of the need to do this. The manual suggests that after installing new sliders, make 3-4 high speed runs on hard pack trail conditions to heat up the sliders followed by a cool down run in deep snow conditions. It goes on to state that this will improve the longevity of the sliders. So.... before I do a full out web search and get polluted with a bunch of nonsense, I thought I'd get polluted here first. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rws Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Instead of riding in loose snow for cool down I pull over and kick or use hands to thoroughly cover the sliders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It works it does work,but sometimes hard to find the right conditions.The same thing applies to the brakes in your car,but it is called "burnishing" or "bedding",it involves some fast runs and quick stops,,,,,not sure if a sled needs this or not to help with wear,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonut Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Absolutely. Heat cycling the HMW plastic "hardens" them. Several heat / cool cycles in the first few miles can make a huge difference in how long your sliders last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Quimby Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Absolutely. Heat cycling the HMW plastic "hardens" them. Several heat / cool cycles in the first few miles can make a huge difference in how long your sliders last. Good advice! Would a few high speed lake runs do the job followed by cooling with snow in between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeXMAN Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Has anyone ever drill holes in the sliders to help with the short life of sliders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinental couch Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Has anyone ever drill holes in the sliders to help with the short life of sliders? A vintage factory race sled I have has drilled sliders.Seems to make the sled faster but I don't think slider wear was much of a consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Has anyone ever drill holes in the sliders to help with the short life of sliders? I drill all my new slides,not like when we raced but a single row 2 or so inches between holes.I like to know what wear I have,,,,,, when we raced we drilled a hole every 1/2 inch or so,,,some say it helps carry the lube through the mud near the end of the 500 miles,,,,,, what do mean short life,,5,000 plus miles no problem,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Has anyone ever drill holes in the sliders to help with the short life of sliders? Best fix that I have found for the Yamaha slider life is to use slightly larger idler wheels. Poo or doo wheels work. The wheel mounts need slight machining but it works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowTouringGuy Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Best fix that I have found for the Yamaha slider life is to use slightly larger idler wheels. Poo or doo wheels work. The wheel mounts need slight machining but it works well. Replace the skis, replace the idler wheels, replace the all the bearings in the skid frame every 7 miles. Why don't you Blue Guys just surrender to the supremacy of BRP ? :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Replace the skis, replace the idler wheels, replace the all the bearings in the skid frame every 7 miles. Why don't you Blue Guys just surrender to the supremacy of BRP ? :razz: What? And replace the engine instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowTouringGuy Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 What? And replace the engine instead? Just trade the sled every 2 or 3 years. Much Simpler :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 What? And replace the engine instead? this may not be a good road for you,or I to go down,,,,,, :poke: :poke: :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Replace the skis, replace the idler wheels, replace the all the bearings in the skid frame every 7 miles. Why don't you Blue Guys just surrender to the supremacy of BRP ? :razz: you forgot exhaust donuts,tracks,,,,,,,,,,,, :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll Ride Anything Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 My BS alarm is going off. Tempering plastics (UHMW or HDPE) isn't possible. We sell these materials to industry, its utter nonsense. There are better grades (virgin vs virgin/recycled) and different additives to gain desired physical properties. Save your time just buy quality parts leave the rest for April 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeXMAN Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Best fix that I have found for the Yamaha slider life is to use slightly larger idler wheels. Poo or doo wheels work. The wheel mounts need slight machining but it works well. Been there done that,sliders are still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariof7 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 you forgot exhaust donuts,tracks,,,,,,,,,,,, :razz: Does not apply to his sled. But I hear yeah. New exhaust donuts every other year at under $200 or replace diamond drive....opps did I type that out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 My BS alarm is going off. Tempering plastics (UHMW or HDPE) isn't possible. We sell these materials to industry, its utter nonsense. There are better grades (virgin vs virgin/recycled) and different additives to gain desired physical properties. Save your time just buy quality parts leave the rest for April 1. read and heard the same, it is not steel But people believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 read and heard the same, it is not steel But people believe it It does work like it or not I have proven it time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I drill my slides personally If it did work, they would temper plastic in a variety of application, but they don't Like you say believe what you want no harm no foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanoonanook Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Thanks for the great replies....I thought that we were going to have a battle royal for a sec there.... no mention of Cat, but I'm not going to go there. I think I'll give it a go - particularly if the conditions allow for tempering. If not, well, $18.00 won't break the bank too badly! Thanks again folks, A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cehyoopers Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 .... no mention of Cat, but I'm not going to go there. Thanks again folks, A they mention doing this in the owners manual,,,,,, but what do they know about sleds,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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