The Groomer Guy Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Check this Out It cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maple Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Check this Out It cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooer Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Looks like some cool technology there. Are they running the tractor without tracks on the trail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Dave Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Are they running the tractor without tracks on the trail? Many of the clubs in Michigan run wheeled tractors. We don't get the snow you do! Reviews on the drag have been mixed. It does make a nice trail, but there are A LOT of moving parts on the drag. Hitting sticks and rocks is not good for it either. They are also VERY expensive compared to a regular drag. Time will tell on how well it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooer Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 We don't get the snow you do! We don't seem to get any, so I have my doubts about the accuracy of your statement. The one groomer around here is running Mattrack-style tracks this season. Looks like a good setup, but I can't see it being much more effective than tires if by the extremely slim chance we actually got some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yeah I was thinking the same Dave, All the moving parts and all, Do you know the name of it and the price of it? I can imagine Hitting a Rock with that. It would be good on our logging Roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Related question (not quite hijacking ) Years ago, there was debate about encouraging a tree canopy (ie more shade) vs cutting back so more snow falls on the trail. The benefit of a tree canopy would be shade, and without direct sunshine on the trail, more sledding in March in mid Ontario. The drawback to a tree canopy would be snow caught in trees and not actually falling on the trail. Since you appear to be dragging snow, I'd side with those in favour of a tree canopy. (but I know $0.00 about this - so it's your thoughts that matter ) Of course, you can have a tree canopy over a trail.. but with bogs and swamps linking forests, .. spring sledding is often pooched anyways. Still..is there a long term plan? ie planting, encouraging tree growth for canopy effect? Or, at least, not cutting back as much? Thanks again for groooming, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Looks really cool. I would think it would be better in an area with plenty of snow. I'd want to avoid the rocks, ouch. Don't let REVED drive it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maple Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Looks really cool. I would think it would be better in an area with plenty of snow. I'd want to avoid the rocks, ouch.Don't let REVED drive it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Looks really cool. I would think it would be better in an area with plenty of snow. I'd want to avoid the rocks, ouch.Don't let REVED drive it Actually, too find the rocks, let REVED ride in front of you, just don't follow his tracks and you'll be safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reved Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Looks really cool. I would think it would be better in an area with plenty of snow. I'd want to avoid the rocks, ouch.Don't let REVED drive it Actually, too find the rocks, let REVED ride in front of you, just don't follow his tracks and you'll be safe! :curse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethecableguy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It does look really cool. The extra cost incured in the drag could be offset by the fact that you don't need a tractor converted over to a groomer. (less maintnance) This way clubs could just lease a tractor for the winter from local farmers wanting to make money on their equipment in the winter. Given the fact that there are so many extra moving parts in it. It would only be best used mid season when there is alot of snow. But what do i know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ebert welding in New Liskeard were working on one with a US university. Ian Auger showed us a video and it certainly would be a big help on high traffic low obstacle trails like the Seguin . The biggest obstacle was the weight and speed of the design (too heavy for the older bridges too slow to make it across and back in 12-14 hrs ) But the science behind it makes sense . More info was posted on ebertwelding.com although I have not checked it lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It is called the sno paver here is the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuchez Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 This groomer looks impressive, however the club that was running it around Grayling, Michigan has already sent it back and now is running the traditional pan groomer behind the new JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowganda Lake Camp Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Pretty slick but I think your right about the rocks... Don't think it would last long on some of our trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINNDIAN Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 would be good for those hard icy bumpy trails you cant cut that we hardly ever see. Imagine trying to keep that operating at -30c though lol. Wow running a groomer on wheels, lol. I had both our tracked groomers burried in a swamp yesterday, had to get an excavator in to pull them out. I was climbing hills yesterday and just barely making it with the BR180 and i didn't even have a drag on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanII Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 It is called the sno paver here is the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Related question (not quite hijacking )Years ago, there was debate about encouraging a tree canopy (ie more shade) vs cutting back so more snow falls on the trail. The benefit of a tree canopy would be shade, and without direct sunshine on the trail, more sledding in March in mid Ontario. The drawback to a tree canopy would be snow caught in trees and not actually falling on the trail. Since you appear to be dragging snow, I'd side with those in favour of a tree canopy. (but I know $0.00 about this - so it's your thoughts that matter ) Well, It's had to Tell, it depends On how much snow you got and the Base, if you got a Hard Iced base it will last longer.Trees make shade and Keeps the temps lower on the trail As for the trees stoping the snow from going to the ground....Well it will Happend but, with a Bit of Wind the snow will end up on the trail anyways. We got Big Logging roads up here that run in Big Clear cutes for Miles and those roads seem to last longer late iin the Season, Maybe it's because the Ice base built up better on those trails......It's had to say. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 This groomer looks impressive, however the club that was running it around Grayling, Michigan has already sent it back and now is running the traditional pan groomer behind the new JD. Did they say why they Returned? had too many problems. Anyone Know What Company it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuchez Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Groomer Guy here is a link to Fay's Motel. The owner is Keith, he was the guy operating the snow prossesor. He will probably answer any questions you might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Groomer Guy Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 Thanks Kuchez....and Welcome to the Board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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