velo Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just wondering if anyone knows about whats up with East bay Marina in Torrance. They have posted a no snowmobiling sign this is one of the only access points on to lake Muskoka from Torrance this sign is new this week... anyone? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka Man Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 We used to work from there in the past years , I heard there is some new people living at the house there , they could be part of the new sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 last i knew the marina was owned by a a group of cottagers who leased out the house and the business. I am trying to contact them in the mean time to see whats going on. but if anyone has any other info on this is would be very much appreciate. its a critical access point to the lake IMHO as there really is no other spot to hop on between Bala and Walkers point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 They don't own the lake or the beach. Even 15 feet back from the water is government land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskywizard Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 They don't own the lake or the beach. Even 15 feet back from the water is government land. You cannot assume the waterfront is public. In many municipalities, the 66' allowance can be purchased by the adjacent land owner. There are even a few examples in Ontario where a portion of the lake bed is private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgooding Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You cannot assume the waterfront is public. In many municipalities, the 66' allowance can be purchased by the adjacent land owner. There are even a few examples in Ontario where a portion of the lake bed is private. I am pretty sure it is government. Just watch out for any obstacles they may put in place to prevent Snowmobilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka Man Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You still have to cross the Marinas private property to get to the lake access Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bclongdrive Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I went by a few weeks ago on the atv to check and see if everything was frozen and was immediately confronted by the person in the house. I was merely in the parking lot and walked down to the docks to have a look. He was very confrontational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 We have two properties in Port Severn. One we own under the water to where it meets the neighbours property directly across from us in the middle of the water way. On the other we own 20 feet out under the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 As a follow up I have got in touch with the marina's owners association, they were unaware of the sign. and assume the current tenant in the house is responsible for it and will be discussing sled access over the weekend with the tenant. keep you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 We have two properties in Port Severn. One we own under the water to where it meets the neighbours property directly across from us in the middle of the water way. On the other we own 20 feet out under the water. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Crazy. What is crazy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What is crazy about it. That you own land underneath the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 That you own land underneath the water. It's part of the Trent Severn Waterway which was created by dams and flooding in a lot of spots. The deed to the property was set long before the flooding. For our one property on the island we own almost as much under water as we do above water. It's pretty common in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irREVerent Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That you own land underneath the water. Apparently you've never heard of water lots...very common in some areas due to historical circumstances, including "flooded land" situations such as O2sled describes. Also, as noted above by Whiskeywizard, some municipalities do allow the purchase of the original 66' shore road allowance created at the time of the original township survey...but in such cases the adjacent owner is only allowed to purchase the portion of the original shore allowance which is ABOVE the lake's high water mark (i.e. not flooded land.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka Man Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 As a follow up I have got in touch with the marina's owners association, they were unaware of the sign. and assume the current tenant in the house is responsible for it and will be discussing sled access over the weekend with the tenant. keep you posted We do work for the association from time to time , I know they would not like the access being cut off as it leads to there properties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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