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Yes, I agree, but I believe rather than someone spend the time or effort to say it was this or that, if C-19 was positive, it is a C-19 death regardless, that IMO skews the numbers that are being used to make decisions. Like I said, this was listed earlier on as a "**disclaimer" in a bunch of earlier notifications. At the end of the day, someone died, it really sucks and no one wants that outcome, but shouldn't be used as tool.

I hit 605, 606 & the E trail today, was going to do Kinmount and drive a little less but with all the reports of how busy it was and no new snow, figured I would try the other side and little further East. Saw about 6 trucks/trailers parked at Kinmount when I drove through. When I arrive it was freezing dribble that turned into some snow a bit later. 606 further South was wooped out, less snow for sure just a few 100 feet south of 605 oddly enough 605 was much better, more snow and less woops E was good. Some of the hills and low lying areas are thin and icy, but not too bad. Need more snow for sure......but that might not matter now...... Saw three older gentleman today on the trails, talked to them all for a bit, all enjoyed being out. Good first ride out, all went well.

This is what the was being stated by the government in their earlier disclaimers with C-19 numbers, not some made up story or a faceplant post. I know 100% that I read it more than once, I do not see it being listed as a disclaimer any more though..... edit: given that he was a negative test, he would not be considered a C-19 death, it is the folks that were tested as positive that are part of C-19 deaths, even if it was cancer or some other sickness that really caused their death. Same for me, but my mother and it was Oct 2019.....mentioned it before on anther post and if she had lasted a few more months, she would have likely been listed as a C-19 death, but it was cancer that took her life.

I do not think it is required at all and the approach thus far is poke and hope with no concrete info to suggest it will work or continue to work after a lock down is lifted, so what is the point other than to appease nonsense. I can see based on Ontario data that we can all see, death was high in first lock down. Deaths dropped in the summer when lock down was cancelled & warmer weather. Deaths & positive cases went up again in Nov when locks downs started again and weather turned colder.....and historically, deaths and hospitalization has always been higher during this time frame, this is nothing new or a Covid only thing. People infected mean little as the testing is so stringent that it is picking up many other things and people that are positive, majority of those people carry on just fine or sick in a bed for a week with flu like symptoms, but what is important is keep those at greater risk away from possible infectious people to mitigate what we all want to see less of - the elderly or those on the high risk bracket from dying. The number of Covid deaths really do not mean a lot either because they are looping ALL deaths to Covid if a persons that has died, that than tested positive for Covid, is a Covid death, even if the person had Cancer, other issues, etc......not related to Covid that was the true reason for their death - what is the purpose of this other than to fuel the plandemic. We can talk about still allowing people to leave and come into the country, people allowing to vacation out of country, politicians, etc......while the lock down is in place - that again makes perfect sense, right?!?!

LOL....thanks. Correct, I missed the last part !

Ya, I imagine conditions will not be pristine, but I want to get out and I think the B103 will be in worst shape than E & 600 series.

Thanks

There is nothing stating you cannot travel, unless some new law was just implemented that has yet to be spread/announced. An OPP officer that you are familiar with on another forum confirmed just the other day that there is no such enforcement when he was asked, see below that I shared on another thread: "Great question... we encourage all people to abide by their local health unit and provincial guidelines. While there is a strong encouragement to avoid non essential travel there is no legislation outright banning travel. I've not heard of any checkpoints turning people around nor is there legislation to support that" Perhaps the officer did as above and you took it as instructions vs. encouragement or he was enforcing something that legally he cannot.... On the second bold part, this is exactly what is going on, people are acting and being crazy!

That is correct, the "recommendation", not the "requirement", just talk to the OPP and they will tell ya that is not something they can enforce......but instead lets lie about things instead and cause even more paranoia, confusion, etc..... Things are messed up, no doubt about it.

Seems to be lots of rumours going around, like OPP stopping people and telling them to go back, which is FALSE. Combination of people just misinformed and I think some are purposely spreading this dribble in hopes people stay home....

How was the E, 605, 606, etc....

x2....there is lots at play with so much that has created a very sad state of affairs. I try not to think too much about it, but at times, it is hard and frustrates the hell out of me, I cannot believe how people are approaching this and what is going on, it is nuts. But than again those on the flip side will say the same about my outlook or those with similar ones.....which one is lesser of two evils though..............

Well that is not helping their case. I remember seeing a video of a hill in Europe somewhere with the Police all over the hill enforcing the rules.

The type of business they are in, they need to hope for the best take advantage when they can, especially the climate we live in as of last many years. I am hopeful they can open for Feb, their busiest month usually and go in April. There has be a light at the end, somewhere.....

There is little to no new snow, if they do not make and stock pile, when they can open, they will have not much making for poor conditions, so I can see why they are doing this.....plus as mentioned, you know they are getting some relief from all of us whether some of us like it or not (tax money).

Reducing injuries makes sense, but that same argument can be used for sledding, driving or workplace accidents. Accidents happen in all these areas, I honestly have no idea the numbers, but I would think ski hill accidents cannot be that high, I know we usually do not see many when we go......but if you have more higher risk activities, greater chances for sure for more accidents to happen. But we have all these hospitals for a reason as well that come at a very big price tag that we all pay for and I think not all of them are seeing the same higher numbers either.

You are outside so no mask needed but many wear something over their face anyways and only ride chair lift with your family unit, hence the longer lift lines. That was the rule for our ski group IF we were hitting the hills, plus a bunch of others until the lock down crap happened and ended that. Edit....Here is what was shared with us regarding the mask: Masks 1. Both staff and guests will be required to wear masks or face coverings at all times in lift lines, loading the chair, riding on the chair, unloading from the chair, within buildings and are recommended when walking on the property. Appropriate masks and face coverings are defined as any double layer material that covers the nose and mouth adequately. Please make sure your Balaclava does not have a mouth hole. Due to the mandated face coverings, lift corrals can remain the same. Guests will be asked to ride only with the people they have arrived with (your bubble), no guest will be forced to ride with a stranger. 2. Please be mindful and avoid gathering less than 2m apart at Trail Maps, Intersections, Parking Lots and lesson flags. 2m is the approximate length tip to tail of adult skis. 3. We strongly encourage guests to respect the environment by bringing their own reusable face coverings (eg cloth mask, bandana, neck tube). We may have reusable masks for sale at the Boutique should you require an extra one. We suggest you bring a couple for each person in case they get wet or soiled.

Lmao, reread what I typed and that’s funny!

The water in Scugog make people do some odd things.... If cannot remove it, cut it off or hammer it further in......at least put a pylon over it in the mean time.

Yep, but they will finally be right one of those weeks....

Seeing her with the update, makes it more plausible....

Skiing could have easily been left open, just means might be a longer line for the chair lift due to "social distancing", but if you have a face covering, which most would anyways, that is limiting the spread as well. Minimize even more the number of people getting rentals at one time. Keep the chalet closed or provide a drive thru type window for people wanting to order food from outside. And bathroom use is limited by numbers, even plop a Johnny on the spot or two outside. What else is there really.....

Don’t put any stock into forecast more than a few day out. Warm spells have been the norm last few years, as depressing as it is, it usually doesn’t impact the north all that much.... just sucks having to drive to ride.

This is a valid point, but honestly to compare the two activities, is not a very strong argument, IMO. They are very different in my mind when you consider the possible interactions while doing both. And I think ski hills should be open personally, with rules in effect.

Agree 100%.....ON is way to soft on the some rules broken regarding sledding. Now I like that the speeding fine is soft of course...........