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The price of wanting, waiting & anticipating to ride.....all a distant memory once you are out enjoying the sled, scenery & the company!

The thing that is being ignored but pointed out as well at the same time, these numbers in a normal year are at their highest right now.

It is running rampant! It has also knocked the %hit out the Canadian culture But we all have our opinions and thoughts on the matter. Love to see where people at a whole sit regarding this.

Anyone I know that has went to Pearson for travel have stated it is dead compared to usua. Truck traffic has increased, no doubt.....and car traffic returned to more normal, but was really quiet for a while there. From my side, the projects I deal with with Ins companies, have stopped or slowed down all the upgrades or reno's that can wait - but from my experience and dealing with them, when things are not settled in the economy, there is a lot more delays and reluctant to spend, but what large corp does not do that. Maybe it is a break even - but there needs to be more and not status quo, so might as well go with an increase!

Ins companies should be showing record profits right now, no? no traveling or reduced so less expense people are putting off their health concerns to avoid possible risk exposure, so less prescriptions less drivers on the road should equal less claims/accidents many of their building are empty projects for reno's & updates of their buildings are on hold with very little forecasted in the future I would think possible home ins claims might be higher based on more being at home though

This is kind of funny, the letter I wrote to my MPP the other day hits on many of the same points in this article..... Long term effect of people's health & well being Long term effects financially Long term effects of our kids, the/our future, dealing with this nonsense Coivd hospital numbers compared to the number of hospitals in his province should not cause them to be on the brink of destruction - just poor planning, management, forward thinking & execution Doctors running the show in the back ground vs. the folks I elected based on looking at all the data in front of them Focus on the biggest problem, the minority that are at greatest risk and that need protection

Careful now, you do not want to openly admit that.... Come to a happy medium and tell her you need both - best of both worlds!

There is more to read on that article here that did not fit on TD post: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/01/14/police-do-not-have-power-to-stop-drivers-to-enforce-new-stay-at-home-order-ontario-tells-police-chiefs.html

While outdoors? I thought I saw an update now that they were encouraging to wear masks outdoors, but not mandatory. I am not sure what the bylaw is exactly for outdoor and social distancing or if it is something that can be enforced. But visit many constructions sites and you will see lots of this though. And this is for indoors of course. Face Coverings Every person in the premises of a business or organization that is open shall ensure that they wear a mask or face covering that covers their mouth, nose and chin, when they are in indoor areas of the premises, with limited exemptions.

Stage 1 is still in affect but been enhanced with the latest stay at home order. Below are a couple if ref where in the stay at home order it refers to the stage 1 and to be ref. Obtaining goods and services 5. Obtaining fod, beverages and personal care items. 6. Obtaining goods or services that are necessary fr the health or safety of an individual, including health care services and medications. 7. Obtaining goods, obtaining services, or perfrming such activities as are necessary fr the safe operation, maintenance and sanitation of households, businesses, means of transportation or other places. 8. Purchasing or picking up goods through an alterative method of sale, such as curbside pickup, fom a business or place that is pe1mitted to provide curbside pickup under the Stage 1 Order. 9. Attending an appointment at a business or place that is pe1mitted to be open by appointment under the Stage 1 Order. 16. Exercising, including, 1. walking or moving around outdoors using an assistive mobility device, or ii. using an outdoor recreational amenity that is permitted to be open under the Stage 1 Order.

I was starting to wonder if you went off the deep end actually when the expected finally happened.... Me thinks you have lots to say, but biting your tongue.

Just went out to grab my coffee as well passed by Simcoe to have a look. I would say it is a bit quieter out, but not really a great deal. Simcoe was still busy for a weekday as well.

And it was recommended not to travel outside your unit to snowmobile, etc...but you still could.

Ya, like smooth rock......

Nice. Maybe this Covid craziness has a pro.....more enforcement of illegal riders, etc....on the trails as a side affect!

Yep, saw that the other day....just crazy people doing stupid things in light of the current times we are dealing with. I assume you saw this from Sean (OPP SAVE officer) as well than from earlier today: "The latest from OFSC https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ofsc.on.ca/2021/01/13/no-change-for-ofsc-snowmobile-trails-at-this-time/__;!!ABXyrcI!d_5m4cSF8YAk49Aw06fTm6pmiARd2vFlu4Uzm1DN6nRl8b0NZyCJsVhjxOYSj-ogSC_t$ The OPP will continue to treat the trails as normal operations. There will be scrutiny on groups of more than 5. But expect education, not enforcement. Closed trails, helmets, no trail pass and aftermarket exhaust will continue to be high priority items for enforcement. Sean"

You are a good man, Spidy!

Do you have more info on why they were fined? Either there is more to the story or something does not add up......or fines being issued that should not be, not a huge surprise.... There seems to be a gray area for sure in all of this, for now...... Driving alone or in your bubble to ride a sled outdoors and no places to eat inside, really has very little risk and no reason not to allow it.....but we will see. As for fines, we all know there will be fines issued, no doubt about that, we also know with the the past lock downs and now this one, the court system is already even more behind than they already were. I suspect most people who might get fined will opt to fight in court, at least they should be IMO, which I have a hard time believing many of them will make it to court given the above - but that is just my initial thoughts on this. Case and point is the vehicle stickers and the notice that was issued that people did not need to renew during these difficult times, but yet police still issued tickets due to lack of being kept informed, that unless you just paid the fine, that had no business being issued in the first place, would have ended up not needing to be paid. I even thought there was something reported to the effect of a judge basically telling the police services to smarten up and not waste already precious time for the incidents that this surrounded this.

LOL. Love your attitude on some things

Reading and seeing this stuff is just nuts....it is over the top crazy how society is getting so much worse, this fast over this whole thing.

Please let your local MPP know this. https://www.ola.org/en/members/current Now you are making too much sense - we here in Ontario do not use that, highly overrated.....

Would be interesting to see what is known at that level. On the bold, I was not suggesting all deaths are grouped into the Covid numbers, assuming that is what you meant by that, just that a death is a Covid death IF The person is positive, regardless of underlining issues they have, which I think is conveniently being used as a tool right now to support an agenda that is not making sense.

Finally some news that makes some sense. There are just over 384 hospitals in Ontario and currently 1701 Covid case hospitalized, that you know are mostly in the hot spots, which will greatly reduce the numbers in the hospitals if they start moving some people around....perfect world, 4.4 covid cases per hospital, which you know that will not happen, but it is a step in the right direction.

It all makes perfect sense, right...... So many gray area's. Going to be a lot more cases in the already overwhelmed court system very soon.......

Yes, the sport does, but the issues lies in the type of people in society, and where we see all the trouble. Any regions close by with private land and trails will slowly disappear, already has......go further or need to make a greater effort to get to trails will not be affected as much because there is more work involved to get there and that is usually where you see the more diehard riders go that respect the sport more. As stated, very confusing.....exercise is allowed, sledding is a form of it and an outside activity, so you would think might be okay. I think someone already said this, but how can you have a stay at home order coming out one side of your mouth and than out the other side state no gathering more than 5 people......I assume while out exercising would be the example that it applies too.... If the OFSC closes the trails, that means they need to pay out next year, for those that actually buy again of course.......so there is incentive for them to keep trails open and my guess is for locals to ride only. No way it did, unless people were making stupid decisions while out. Saw three sledders today on the trails, talked to all of them and at no point were any of us closer than 6 feet....all of us packed a lunch & snacks as well.