Depends on what they determine "proper" coverage is and looks like. Again, that's a moving target and not the same for everyone. It's business decision. Like now, self insurance is reality - so you price your product accordingly.   Its clearer now for me how the MTO involvement ties into the bigger picture. But the offset to that - is they control the pricing of the permit, so you get what you get.    

Well, I'll stick with my comment. You probably don't remember before the MTO involvement when the OFSC was paying 8 million  dollars for insurance. If the OFSC was to dissolve that relationship what would insurance cost now for the proper coverage? There is little to no hope that even with permit increases the OFSC could afford it without a lot of government dollars and that is also not likely to happen in my opinion.

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Like anything with politics involved, it all depends on who's holding the approval pen at the time, and political and economic climate. This is the first time the MTO has not approved a permit price and structure recommendation from the OFSC since Bill 101 came to be.  There was a multi year threshold agreement in place if a certain criteria of need was meet, capped at 7% a season. But again, who holds pen decides.    Although sledding generates a huge amount of economic spin off, we are still a pimple in the grand scheme of things, with a none guaranteed head count of 80 to 100k participants in a province of 16 million. If everyone woven into the economic fabric of sledding in Ontario spoke up it would certainly help. I see that the Parry Sound Chamber of Commerce is now getting involved in the municipal trail closure issue effecting access into town, fantastic to see. 

Not, is not the correct word. Yes, they could, just not as it sits today for the cost of the permit. What they could NOT do, is keep the cost for a permit at the already too low price.    To be honest, this discussion has been fruitful for me.   So I have said over and over, get rid of the MTO.   As I sit here now, I would say I can see the benefit of them being involved. I have a better understanding of the broader picture of their involvement.   That said, I still say there needs to be an adjustment to the agreement to allow more flexibility on price control of the permit. The OFSC are too handcuffed on this part of it, and there needs to be some other way to allow for it.   Maybe implement something where the OFSC can by pass the MTO approval on the annual basis, to allow a max. percentage increase for a year ( say to cover off a great winter ) - not to exceed a total gross increase over a 3 year period - something like that. allow for some flexibility for working together more and helping the greater good - but keep some rails in place.