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Up to you to decide, but if you can do it online, why not just do it to avoid dealing with the hassles. There were reports earlier that people were getting flack & tickets from officers for not having valid stickers, which means you need to deal with it in the courts, etc.....so why put yourself through that.

So it does work when overdue I cannot recall how long mine took, but it was quicker than I was expecting to receive mine.....quicker than the trail pass for sure

Sorry, but I also find it funny that we need a piece of paper to remind us to renew.... what are 16... lol

So you cannot renew online if it’s overdue????? Online is easy peasy....1,2,3.... unless you have higher rated truck i.e. 3/4 or 1 ton.....

I am sure they will be!

I recall you had a post about the cottage rental in the area.....do you have the rental now or a bit later? x2....need some more snow for sure!

What does the repair entail?

The forest is good for early season ride/scratch or late season ride, otherwise, stick to the OFSC trails if you can once season is in full swing (assuming you have a trail pass). I am guessing the groomer does not have a lot of snow to pull in from the sides/bush to help smooth out the trails more without wrecking the base that they are trying to build o top of - early season conditions unless more snow falls. The odd thing about the forest and that area in general is, the snow coverage can vary a fair amount from one side to the other side. Riders not knowing or maybe not caring who is behind them, is just one of those annoying things you have to deal with.....

Typically snow systems are only mentioned a couple days before they hit..... so there is still hope! Also lots of areas get little amounts of snow each night that isn’t forecasted vs big dumps of snow, that tend to add up bit by bit and also tends to be better as well for the trails.

The forest used to be a totally different place than it is now......and yes, that rock face on the sweeping, dropping turn has seen many mishaps.....

It is the forest that requests the OPP to be in there doing enforcement on their private property....at least that is how I recall how it used to be. They used to have a guy that would enforce things, I recall he always wore an Orange one piece snow suit.

How many people you know that live in QC that plan a trip to ON How many people you know that live in ON that plan a trip in QC I know a few people in QC, all through work and none of them have ever talked or mentioned to come here to ride. One guy brings his kids to Ontario each year in the summer so his kids & him can ride dirt bikes with an org that uses the Ganny for this, rent dirt bikes, training, etc..... I mentioned to him this past year that I find it very odd to see Quebec folks come to ON for this sort of stuff, he laughed and stated he cannot find a group in QC that offers the same things so he comes here. Look at the people on here that ride in QC with mostly positive reviews.....some even talk about only buying a QC pass even though they live here. I assume QC sees an increase in sales or they just see the value in tourist dollars. ON never saw permit increase (AFAIK) with the program, just a weekend that usually had mild temps and the trails got trashed for all the buying members or those same members would avoid riding that weekend, that makes perfect sense.....

Thank you! So, how many helmets you have now have siting at home....it seems you have a new one each year

Do you need electric visor with this and wire hook up? Just looking at there website now, looks like a nice helmet!

Have a 509 MX helmet & goggles. I really like the openness, field of vision, being able to hear more things and no wires. Been thinking that it might be time to get something new, but not in a hurry....

Regarding the STOP program ending when OPP took on more or I guess all of the enforcement - what was the back ground on this? All I think I heard was the OPP did not want both, but there has to be more to it than the OPP stating they do not want something for it to be squashed? Does the OFSC currently push the OPP for greater enforcement, if the OPP cannot provide a level that is satisfactory, is the option to reinstate the STOP program discussed? This is of course assuming there are folks that want to fulfill the STOP role. Just curious given the discussion going on.

There is this update on the Snowcrest FB page about the D trail and losing it. https://www.facebook.com/groups/148875491815624 and there is a work around as well !!!

All forums have there plus's and negatives, take them for what they have a move on......nothing should be enough to get you worked up, except for personal stuff, I think most places draw the line at that now a days, with varying degrees of leniency.

Might be time for a dedicated pinned thread on the do & don'ts on posting etiquette.....

If anyone has rode up Devils mountain, you will see how bad the trails there can be too...... Thankfully they have some a nice lady living up top waiting to serve you some drinks

Another point, there are ATV trails in QC....in some locations.

I have no first hand experience with this, but I hear the penalties for those not willing to follow the rules are dealt with more harshly: no permit, pay double upon being caught illegal exhaust, sled is towed (this is something that I have read - not sure how true it is) Some gas merchants also check for permit before providing gas QC also does tourism so much better - has anyone ever called them to request info/literature, the response is really good I thought as an out of province person, you could receive $40.00 back on the insurance - I think there was a thread or that was mentioned here somewhere. QC does have their issues, I recall when we rode to Tremblant, there were no trails leading anywhere near it, they did not want sled there, so I assume there must have been some bad situations in the past.

Yes, it is more, plus they no doubt also get more grant money from the province (and likely the Fed's too...), but I really do not think it is the money that makes it better, they have better seasons and it is a life style there with a greater amount of respect in general.

I see Yellow from Kimount to Haliburton.

Interesting idea, but I think more for simply educating people that really do not know how the trails actually get there, steps taken, what is done that causes trails to close, etc.....that might put things into a different light for those. People that do some of the things you see or read about will not stop, some people really do not give two $hits about a lot of things and have a few screws loose...... If the police have put any thought yet into the significant increase in outdoor activities or the crazy sales happening, they would know this will be a record year for fines to the people with no trail pass, Ins, etc..... Should be easy pickings based on what you hear so far.