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So that is why sledding is still allowed! When is the BBQ, I am sure we can all chip in.

As an essential worker, do you not get the get out of jail free card like the politicians - do as you wish during your vacation! It is only fair, right....all in this together, right.....no boundary here..... I did notice on one of the more recent videos that he is starting to look run down, tired, maybe even desperate...... tricky might have summed it up quite well and it is starting to takes it toll.

Well, get’er done..... I know you have friends in those kinds of places

This^^^^^ IF this is in fact true, the media needs to be all over this with zero regard for any personal space (not that they usually do).

That is the right, the government is already doing a totally awesome job of that for so many..... Ya I know, this is a "rant of the day" kind of comment........shoot me....

In Fairness the title. "State of emergency declared" and the first post above encompasses a lot of what has been discussed, might not all be sledding related though...

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LOL....I had to google him. Must have also have worn a tin foil hat

Honestly, who is for the sport if you when things are bad or not as good as you hoped for, you want your money back? It is a mostly volunteer run org, not a bunch of hourly or salaried employees!!! Better off without these people.....but I guess you need to be careful what you ask for.....

I ref that in another thread.....one of teh pro's without a doubt, increase enforcement on the trails for the things many have complained about.

LMAO.....It is called Covid mental fatigue, it will kill you! True statement.....guess no need to wonder why we are where we are.....

According to many he did, but him winning did not suit or fall into the upcoming agenda's.......

Well we have been "hearing" or reading about guys trucks and trailer apparently getting vandalized by locals.....so who knows.... Anyways, funny enough I just received my car insurance renewal and it is cheaper than last year. Sled was status quo if I recall. House Ins was status quo. Insurance on trailers were status quo as well Plus I received some cheques from my Insurance companies earlier as advertised.

Below is a copy & paste of a letter from another forum touching on this fear, control, dependence, etc.... Reading and believing all of it, for me is a bit far fetched......but I have to say, some of it sure makes you kind of wonder when you read it and look around what has been said, done, etc..... "w: LPC Strategic Committee LeakInboxLPC leaker 1:47 PM (7 hours ago)toHello, Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, REMOVED wrote: Dear *******, I want to provide you some very important information. I'm a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO). I need to start off by saying that I'm not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well. The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes. The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows: Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020. Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020. Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020. Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 - early January 2021 Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021. Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021. Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 - Q2 2021. Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021. Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021. Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021. Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021. Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief. This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada's HealthPass) . Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told "the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details". Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized. So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I've ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it. All I know is that I don't like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future."

Yep, kicked out. Should be interesting if this leads to anything.

The price of wanting, waiting & anticipating to ride.....all a distant memory once you are out enjoying the sled, scenery & the company!

The thing that is being ignored but pointed out as well at the same time, these numbers in a normal year are at their highest right now.

It is running rampant! It has also knocked the %hit out the Canadian culture But we all have our opinions and thoughts on the matter. Love to see where people at a whole sit regarding this.

Anyone I know that has went to Pearson for travel have stated it is dead compared to usua. Truck traffic has increased, no doubt.....and car traffic returned to more normal, but was really quiet for a while there. From my side, the projects I deal with with Ins companies, have stopped or slowed down all the upgrades or reno's that can wait - but from my experience and dealing with them, when things are not settled in the economy, there is a lot more delays and reluctant to spend, but what large corp does not do that. Maybe it is a break even - but there needs to be more and not status quo, so might as well go with an increase!

Ins companies should be showing record profits right now, no? no traveling or reduced so less expense people are putting off their health concerns to avoid possible risk exposure, so less prescriptions less drivers on the road should equal less claims/accidents many of their building are empty projects for reno's & updates of their buildings are on hold with very little forecasted in the future I would think possible home ins claims might be higher based on more being at home though

This is kind of funny, the letter I wrote to my MPP the other day hits on many of the same points in this article..... Long term effect of people's health & well being Long term effects financially Long term effects of our kids, the/our future, dealing with this nonsense Coivd hospital numbers compared to the number of hospitals in his province should not cause them to be on the brink of destruction - just poor planning, management, forward thinking & execution Doctors running the show in the back ground vs. the folks I elected based on looking at all the data in front of them Focus on the biggest problem, the minority that are at greatest risk and that need protection

Careful now, you do not want to openly admit that.... Come to a happy medium and tell her you need both - best of both worlds!

There is more to read on that article here that did not fit on TD post: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/01/14/police-do-not-have-power-to-stop-drivers-to-enforce-new-stay-at-home-order-ontario-tells-police-chiefs.html

While outdoors? I thought I saw an update now that they were encouraging to wear masks outdoors, but not mandatory. I am not sure what the bylaw is exactly for outdoor and social distancing or if it is something that can be enforced. But visit many constructions sites and you will see lots of this though. And this is for indoors of course. Face Coverings Every person in the premises of a business or organization that is open shall ensure that they wear a mask or face covering that covers their mouth, nose and chin, when they are in indoor areas of the premises, with limited exemptions.

Stage 1 is still in affect but been enhanced with the latest stay at home order. Below are a couple if ref where in the stay at home order it refers to the stage 1 and to be ref. Obtaining goods and services 5. Obtaining fod, beverages and personal care items. 6. Obtaining goods or services that are necessary fr the health or safety of an individual, including health care services and medications. 7. Obtaining goods, obtaining services, or perfrming such activities as are necessary fr the safe operation, maintenance and sanitation of households, businesses, means of transportation or other places. 8. Purchasing or picking up goods through an alterative method of sale, such as curbside pickup, fom a business or place that is pe1mitted to provide curbside pickup under the Stage 1 Order. 9. Attending an appointment at a business or place that is pe1mitted to be open by appointment under the Stage 1 Order. 16. Exercising, including, 1. walking or moving around outdoors using an assistive mobility device, or ii. using an outdoor recreational amenity that is permitted to be open under the Stage 1 Order.