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Great point… product is selling itself, why have an expense

Aren’t most of the booths run by businesses, so likely paid? Not all of course, so that is another factor no doubt. I also think people in general are still very reluctant to get invested in these things given the environment….. as a business there is an expense to a show that I think on a normal year did not have the greatest returns, likely worse now….or flip side could be great if you look at the spike in the market for the vehicles in this market.

Should have never been a factor, IMO….especially as an outdoor event, but that’s another discussion.

Wait for it......those selfish & spoiled snowmobilers think the world revolves around them It really is too bad about this, but given the premise for the show (outdoor enthusiasts), it is very odd that plans were not in the works a while ago to make it an outdoor show....perhaps there is more to the story...

Redid my dads place with pex in the spring when a bunch of copper fittings blew apart when I went up to get water running for him. I asked him, “dad, you sure you drained the system last fall”…..he says as far as I know I did…. Lol.

Water concern is an easy thing to get past - drain before leaving & risk is gone or minimal. Just the foundation is the concern knowing the old owner lived there full time so was always heated to date, which part of me says all will be good & not to worry, but of course if there is an issue, that is a hefty repair bill that rather not deal with - so having some heat on when not there removes that risk & adding a furnace possibly will lower the monthly expense for a few months of the year where it is of a concern. Talking to an Engineer will likely just give me worst case scenario and likely plant more seeds of doubt - hearing from real life examples from people with same situation, personally means a lot more to me, which so far, there are quite a few listed here as well some good feedback based on the situation !

Beats cottage country traffic! My wife’s grandparents used to fly to their place years ago.

I agree as well, poured is far better - and with blocks, there is an added concern.....plus usually a block foundation is older that generally will not have an external barrier system installed. However I would not consider a cottage because it has blocks, rather no basement altogether, just trying to take all things into consideration. Our current house has blocks on the old side of it, with a cinder block knee wall - was such a wonderful building practice back in the day.....

Highly unlikely anyone that frequents here would have an issue with the increase. Permit talk, cooler air outside, sleds showing up at dealers.....hopefully there will some more sled discussions around here in the coming weeks

There are already baseboards there throughout main floor and basement, just not sure of the number of them, but they are there for sure......of course the hydro bill to keep them on low during the cold months is unknown, but potentially considering a furnace install if it is stupid monthly hydro bills is not a bad thing to do either or that hard either. Basement is poured concrete floor, no exposed bedrock and the foundation walls are cinder blocks with a stucco installed on the exterior. The cottage was built into the side of a hill, so only half of the cottage is below grade, the other half is above grade......so that is good in my eyes. Nothing fancy for building materials either.....wood siding, carpet & vinyl flooring, etc.....so nothing to worry about there.

Should be interesting to hear the comments from some on this.....the sky just might be falling..... I think $9.99 would have been a better number to start off with personally.....still gives you that mental block that some may have and be in the the single digits. I have no idea on permits sold, but lets say it was 75,000 last year - that is $375k, that I am sure is welcomed by many!

A little more info on why I am asking this......we are looking at cottages and one of interest has come up that happens to have a basement that is partially finished and the other half is the utility room. The previous owner lived here year round. Having a cottage with a basement is not on our checklist as our intentions for winter use is not to have have running water, etc....so I am wondering what people that have a basement / foundation do in the winter as it brings into the equation a concern for me or at least something that needs to be considered. My initial thought is I would want to keep it heated somewhat when not there to avoid issues with the structure. It has baseboards now that can be left on but adding a furnace would likely be a good investment for this purpose and still heat when there with the wood stove. Draining the water, etc....before we leave is not an issue to make those modifications to allow that, the water line right now to the cottage is a heated one as well. Thanks for the feedback thus far!

That is currently an unknown, but I’ve done some reading and that is best case scenario for this situation. Given the surrounding, I don’t think it is.

Currently has baseboards and wood stove. Adding one for this possible cottage if we keep heat on in winter would be something to consider.

I have a couple of inquiries pertaining to cottages and winters that some here may be able to share their first hand experiences or thoughts on. Assuming cottage has been winterized otherwise. 1) Does anyone have a four season cottage with a basement foundation and do you keep heat on low in basement all the time while not there? 2) What are people’s thoughts on the above scenario regarding heating your cottage with basement foundation - will or can a lack of heat below grade cause foundation or floor issues during cold winter months Thank you

We too have looked at a cottage recently in this area and wondering how or if the trails link up with Harcourt Park that encompasses about 7,000 aces in this area, just west of Elephant lake.....looks like either E trail or 626 or possibly 601.

I would say the trailer at the canyon is not as remote as HH and the canyon is just a relatively small loop to the dam vs a major trail that connects two northern regions. But it is similar that a person stays there for a period as a remote destination that allows sledders to ride there, get some gas, very basic food and now they offer lodging too. Another location is devils mountain in QC where a person stays there for a stint to serve those that make it up there, but an even shorter distance than both of the above.

Yes, cables could do the trick too of course, have worked perfectly fine my entire driving life .......but with these you remove the must have for vehicle #2. I tend to do solo riding, so waiting or looking for that other vehicle could be an issue or require some wait time. The other dilemma is sled batteries tend to not be as easily accessible as they could be, so that means taking partially apart two sleds for that jump start. They also provide a USB port to power other things if you're in a pinch. When on sale, the amount spent of them is pretty marginal, IMO. They are small, likely find a padded pouch for it and store it in the glove box of my sled, making it easy to keep it charge as needed between rides vs. stuffed away. I have never relied on electric start to date, my new sled will be the first, so I think pro's out way the con's.

Crappy Tire has these on sale this week if anyone is looking.....I think I will buy one. https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-600a-lithium-jump-starter-power-bank-0112062p.html#srp

Yes, very true!

With a newer groomer they must be more efficient as well one would think.

Agreed above…. And with divulging some of those basic numbers from revenue and costs, expand on the tax funding as well, what is received, what is asked for, how is is lobbied, etc….. educating people is a good thing for many, but as I said, it will also Bring the negative comments too, that I know for a person volunteering, that’s a big slap in that face, which is life unfortunately and must be accepted as such.

It’s crazy all around…. Not looking good at all. Its nuts the snowball affect that covid has had….if it doesn’t socially destroy us, it will financially!

Absolutely no reason basic numbers can’t be shared publicly, even on the website. Double edge sword I’m sure, but it really puts everything into perspective year to year for all that partake in the sport that will see positive and negative feedback.

The slight twist to last year though was you were asked not to leave your health district, trails passing between them were “closed” and the OFSC supported this….. of course they had too. I agree with your statement, but there was more to the story last year than a normal year.