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The bearing on the OTHER side of the main drive shaft - now that's a horse of a diff'rnt colour. Those love to go out if you fail to grease them. BUT - the old skewl speedo's would give you a heads up that it was going out before leaving you sit. But I doubt that the new speedo's werk the same way. ???

Well, considering how little time I spend on FB, it shouldn't be a problem.

As I am not a member - I can't read whatever you may have intended us to see, but thanks for the link. I put in my papers for admission. I'd like to see what they are all aboot.

I'm not sure what I'm lookin' at here? It doesn't appear to be an actual bridge? Per the bearing - I don't think that I've ever lost a lower one before that I can think of. I always re-use them - but I would Shirley spin them by hand to check of course. This is of course if I had it out to change tracks... And of course if the outside seal still looked good... With that said - we don't run at speed for long like you guys, so that prolly makes some diff too? Also - as was said above aboot rust on the upper - this must be in machines with synth oil. I run way-lube in my chaincases. I find it to be much better! As I have a machine shop - I have the stuff in 55 gal barrel, and not sumpthing that y'all are likely to pick up at Canadian Tyre I wouldn't think. But it is essentially a higher end bar and chain lube. (chainsaw) It has sticky properties - and wants to spider-web when you dip your fingers in it and than pull them apart. I blew a chain* on my [then new] '02 Doo and was not happy with what I found inside. Next time I had it apart I filled with waylube and the next time I took it apart it looked like brand new. * That track ratcheted terrible when off trail, and now it has Wahl extrovert drivers. The chain broke from ratcheting. .

LOL! Go check out the Euro's websites for early bird news eh? LOL!

... but what I don't understand is how you equate Doo's colour schemes with trailering in Ontario? If Doo offered any colour that you want, as long as it's yella, Pol offered only Purple, Cat Green, Yammi Blue, and Deere Green, then the late 70's early 80's would be back?* Per your schpeal, you are saying that the trail market in The Great Lakes region is dying, while the kids with snowboards that are buying machines are in the West, yet it's not best to cater to them? * Well heck, let's go a wee bit further and git Rupp Red in the mix too eh? Well, I doo.... And have had to since '84/85

I'm not following the question / insinuation? Somehow the color of a skidoo for the appeal of grumpy old men that are stuck in our nostalgic ways (my new sled is black and yella) is akin to replacement young'uns to ride trails in an area that doesn't have trails anymore? I think the fore and aft of your statement are on opposite sides of your mouth? Or I'm not understanding.... ??? FWIW - I don't think that Whistler is that small of an area?

I don't know if there are many younger fella's on the trails these days or not? But I know that there are many young guys in the mountains, dooing all that jump and drop off type stuff.

Just how often doo y'all replace wear bars? Sounds like more often than sliders?

I have posted this in the North section before I'm sure, but since most of you never followed that board: Many years ago me and my chum were riding the hydro N of Halfway with 2 of our young boys. A fella came up behind (that we now ride with occassionally) and was playing too. We got up to the warm-up shank @ Bauparlante Rd, and the new fella realized that his BIL was not anywhere to be seen. We left the boys at the shack, and meandered back to see where the other fella got to. Finally we found him just 1 or 2 sled lengths off the trail, as he tried to follow us.... (not usually a good idear) But he was just off trail - but at the bottom of a small hill, so we parked our sleds well past the hill, and maybe even half off the trail. We could hear machines coming on, and they had a head of steam. We all made sure to be out of the trail as they came on.... Must'a been maybe 6 of them? Every one of them - except maybe the last guy - got air (like maybe 30') over the knoll, and of course in the middle. Fortunately only the next to the last (wife) grabbed brake in the air, making the last guy have to take the bush when he came down. Had the folks up front grabbed brake - it could have been a Schidt show! We help drag him out of the bush, and I don't recall anything being said between any of us, but he was chewing on his wife for shutting it down... I will cut them a wee bit'a slack tho: While they couldn't see us on the other side of the hill, and we Shirley wouldn't had stopped there under normal conditions, had there been oncoming traffic, they would have seen them further up the trail long before getting to the knoll. Oncoming {moving} traffic would not have been hiding down in the swell for any length of time. We were a bit concerned for the kids, but Shirely they wouldn't have rode on past if anyone was hurt.... And besides, there was a 90* turn right there anyway* so they wouldn't have been going fast. With that said - D trail heading N to Wawa is not the best place to be on Sunday. That is a southbound day! * Not that we ever turn there, but the groomed trail does. .

Yeah, well a trail hog is another subject. I had a Deputy on my side of the centerline on slushy roads last night.

I highly expected that was all Crown.

I understand that. The issue is not left of center, it is overdriving your line of sight.

The blanket statement about the middle being the most beat up = safety - I disagree with. If you can see that there is no-one coming - then Shirley the center is the safest. Staying there - or worse - cutting the corners on blind hills and corners is the problem. Blanketing the problem is [almost] as bad as the problem it'self. That's as bad as saying that 50 klicks is the safe speed everywhere.

In the world of Mountain machines - like my chums 174 that I mentioned earlier - I'm sure that is all aboot weight loss more than anything. And THAT is a good thing, as the un-insulated cans then take out the plastic recoils on Doo's, and I git to sell yet another upgraded recoil set-up!

"The pipe was obnoxious to listen to but at low speeds it was no louder then stock. " Is an added mirror "modifying" the sled?

PIIIIPES! PIIIIPES! Wait 'till the kids in the Chevy's see these pipes! They'll say "OH WOW - LOOK AT THOSE PIPES!" @4.45 if you're in a hurry, but it's the best 12 minutes you'll spend all day! Notes available @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_M.P.H.

Bi-lingual?

In any particular sense? I have added a rack on mine, and I plan to add a cpl power leads yet. My old sled has a "new" (not BRP) tunnel under it. I added a 16 x 16x track. I put dual ring pistons in it. I put an aftermarket head on it. I pulled the internal crank seals and drilled the case. I put those fancy powder pre-filters on it. I made my own replaceable radius rods. I put scratchers on it. more I'm sure.... The motor mods are in line with durability. What concern is it for insurance? Now if we bought a 500F/A and stuffed a blown 900 under the hood, then that would seem to be of concern. ??? .

i'd be nice to see what fer cans are getting the attention, and see how they pass the test. I'm not a believer in a test @ clutch engagement rpm. I have rode with guys before that I didn't know they had a can until they powered over a hill or drift under power, and then I could hear them. (from behind me of course ) But then my chum with an 800 Summit 174 that I rode with a few weeks ago, he bought it used and it had a can on it, and I never thought that I heard a can at all. I have no clue what fer can it is...

In all fairness to the <88db issue... I'd bet that most of the high volume cans will pass that, as the test is "at" or "off idle" I think is how it's werded? (USA) But it's once you get over 6000 rpm and under power that they git loud. So - I'm not sure that a field test is going to werk? It may need to be more in line with California's CARB - where a manufacturer needs to produce their product to testing and get a variance number. Some of y'all may recall the issue of Hot Rod about 35years ago when the title of the main article was "Can they outlaw Hot Rodding?" It was in response to the CARB, and that it wasn't likely that hardly anyone would $pend the $ to git clearance. 35 yrs later, and it seems that - yes - many ARE getting their CARB numbers.

I'm all for quiet pipes. Don't get me wrong! I've hated those loud things for 25 years! It blows my mind that it is still an issue to this day. The previous owner has aloud pipes on my truck, and it's just wastefull to replace until they die, but when they doo - it will be quiet again! Pulled a load out to Colorado a few years ago, and it was high profile and pulled like a sail. Pipe was enough to run you out of the truck all the way. I doo still think that twins on a V8 with cherry's or other can sound nice - for a while... But a diesel with a single sounds like a sick cow. We had a 4020 with an M&W turbo [and a straight pipe] on it when I was a kid, and I LOVED to run that tractor! But I was young then too.... I'm over it...

This is 100% wrong too. You could have* an aftermarket exhaust that is as quiet, or even more quiet that OEM. Requiring that it be OEM is bad. * I understand that is not normally the case, but this could happen more and more if it had to be. The market is getting more that way all the time. It's already not the wild west like it was 25 years ago.

I like my quiet 850! I learned to hate cats in the 90's when we could meet one with pipes and [seemingly] not be able to hear for the next 5 miles (was in the UP at the time). And it seemed that all cats had pipes...

The Domtar portion of D201F was freshly groomed when we arrived on Friday (we laid first tracks for a klick or so) but I saw no signs of anything coming in from the east at all. We did see some other tracks on it when we came back out a few hours later tho. Once they hit the ice road (literally!) I have no clue where they came from / went, but prolly east towards F I'd guess. (not groomed yet) If so - then you could likely stage at Black Creek and make it through. Maybe Dan and chums got enough deadfall cleared? A lot of it has self righted with the warm weather, but there are still several down. About half or more of what is down at this point is broken, but some will still stand up once freed. The fact that there was a "trail" in there was news to me. We used to make the run from trail F down to the Domtar <20 yrs ago, and it was pretty tight in there for a ways. Let me re-phrase that: It was REALLY tight in there for a ways, and I questioned whether we could git through, but we did eventually. Was just REALLY slow pickin's. We used to unload at Johnny's.