I believe the rough grading is done from the warm up shack on the big overlook hill, to the Warm up shack near the halfway point at the Kabi river, from Dub. It will need to be signed, and final brush, trim, groom etc... It should be good to go from dub north, for season. The west route has a lot of logging close to Dub (rd12) and the loggers say they will play nice, then tell us no, and dig up the groomed trail. Mostly because sledders ride the road instead of the trail. So, we are our own worst enemy. There are beaver, water issues at near, and west of Hammer Lake (Fishing Moose Lodge), to White River. there is no White River club, only the Marathon people, and the Fishing Moose couple. Marathon has a lot of trail, and have worked and connected to Manitouwadge but, with all that, White River east to Dub doesnt get the attention it needs to be a stellar trail, due to budget, manpower, and time. Hope this helps. Ski