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manotickmike

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  1. 16 hours ago, Sksman said:

    Ontario needs to treat pipes like Quebec. 

     

    If they hear you or catch you your day is over.  

     

     

     

    My my point is most of the Quebec locals are not running any pipes or cans.  They all know the cost and have friends towed home with the $1,000 fine.  Heavy fines and consequences work.

    What's working in Quebec is enforcement. They have a good thing going, and have no intention of letting a few A-ho's ruin it for everyone else.

    I've never HEARD of anyone getting hassled for speed, but just try sledding without a pass or insurance or license. Or an unsafe or obnoxious noisy sled.

    Chances are HIGH that you're going to get nailed. And prosecuted.

    Problem solved. By the clubs, mostly.

    It's what we're going to wish we did. 

     

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  2. OEM or stay off the trail. Introducing gray areas is not going to move this issue out of the way. If there was a blitz on enforcement, as we can't seem to get regular enforcement of anything, and results were made public, maybe we would get somewhere with this "black and white" issue, and move ahead.

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  3. I'm that Mike, in the interest of full disclosure. And the way I heard things, is the OFSC changed the wording of an agreement, something about "risk management". I have NO axe to grind here, like some, I just want the truth. Maybe living in a cesspool of political bullshit both federal and city has made me intolerant of deliberate obfuscation after all these years. I don't mind trailering, and lately, do a LOT of my riding in Quebec. I do object to hiding and covering up info from an organization I voluntarily pay to belong to. I don't give a darn which level it's from. Rant over.

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  4. https://thereview.ca/2020/01/29/ucpr-keeps-snowmobile-trails-closed-on-public-land-action-demanded-from-provincial-federation/?fbclid=IwAR1FzRGcIPJDeX5Vkp0i3wYdy-ZA6X-lEAYRUpJmqEKpqIEgFkAea4ol2wA

     

    According to the UCPR, the EOSC’s new insurance policy for snowmobile trails on private and public land, and the wording of the agreement landowners sign with the organization excludes coverage for the “willful misconduct and/or negligence on the part of the landowner,” which exposes them to liabilities.  According to UCPR Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) Stéphane Parisien, the counties have received legal advice on the matter and council decided it is in its best interests to maintain insurance and landowner agreements as they have been worded in the past.

  5. Key here from a local perspective, the agreement was changed, presented as unchanged, landowners found the change, and pulled the plug. Nobody was notified in advance, and OFSC expected the trusted club reps to present the altered agreement, and nothing would  change. Transparency would dictate the changes be presented for discussion, in time for a resolution, and before a lot of people bought trail passes under false pretenses. When the language of the agreement was altered. 

     Did I miss anything?

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  6. Known issue with municipal areas in D1, and nobody said a (expletive deleted) word until the passes were sold, and volunteers had wasted a LOT of time and effort. 

    My local club is pretty much rooked without the multi-use trails, other nearby clubs are going to get pretty much zero traffic with the heart of the system ripped out. , local businesses are worried.

    We probably STILL wouldn't know if it hadn't finally snowed. Transparency and accountability are sorely lacking.

     

    Some class action lawyer is going to get in on this. 

     

    Sorry, clicked reply, and my earlier comment was in some sort of a clipboard. It still stands.

    George posted days ago, nothing since. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him making a "sell my sled" statement. 

    This is just the beginning. Lots of other clubs are saying how fortunate they are without these issues, but I think that's likely because they haven't a legal department to read the agreement.

    OFSC should be making some sort of formal statement here, and nothing that I know about so far.

     

     

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  7. Likely down to mud when they were busy over the (+3) weekend. Busy area.

    Some clubs leave trails yellow when there's washouts. Others close them.

    I crossed a rough 15 foot gap Saturday, spent 2 hours getting the mud and weeds out of it Sunday.

  8. E104 A from end to end yesterday, awesome. What a great trail. Back on the E and others, delightfully lost most of the day, just following along.  Rain for an hour, then SNOW. Great day, saw a dozen sleds at Sharbot Lake (good pizza...) and maybe another dozen on the trail, even saw an old pal riding with hubby and kids, what are the odds. Also happened upon a NASTY wreck, nice new Cat touring, totalled, thankfully nobody hurt. Got him out of the ditch and onto the shoulder for towing. This is as close as I can figure, my odo read 180.

     

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  9. Known issue with municipal areas in D1, and nobody said a (expletive deleted) word until the passes were sold, and volunteers had wasted a LOT of time and effort. 

    My local club is pretty much rooked without the multi-use trails, other nearby clubs are going to get pretty much zero traffic with the heart of the system ripped out. , local businesses are worried.

    We probably STILL wouldn't know if it hadn't finally snowed. Transparency and accountability are sorely lacking.

     

    Some class action lawyer is going to get in on this. 

  10. Seems he took them off trail on to a known dangerous section of the lake. Locals interviewed were pretty angry about a "trusted" "guide" gave their area a bad name. Apparently, all it takes to become a guide is an ad and maybe a $10 box of business cards. The part that pisses me off ( my skiing background makes sledding look like a lark...) is that the tourists didn't do the dumb move, they tried to do things right, and got screwed by a scam artist. Lowest form of life.

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