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  1. 3 hours ago, XTC500 said:

    I agree. But do you think this will be enough of a wake up call for our politically correct politicians? As much as I detest Trump, for years now he understood that it doesn't make sense for absolutely everything we buy to be made in China. Maybe I've missed it, but I've never heard another politician in any other country admit it.

    Buddy, our government has zero interest in any manufacturing of any kind if it results in one drop of pollution. The environment is more important than the people living in it.

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  2. 6 hours ago, Doogirl69 said:

    Saw a groomer with a track off on Friday night on trail 76 or d101b I think going to LOB. Came up from LOB on Sunday and its still there and the trails to Dwight and north were beyond nasty. 

     

    Anyone know what is going on and why other clubs or a spare groomer wasn't used for the whole weekend? Ran into lots of pissed off peopel in Dwight who drove up for the day and dropped in Dwight. 

     

    Why wouldn;t the trails be marked yellow or even red on the ITG and let people know? Nothing on their website/FB or District 7 FB about groomer down and expect poor conditions. 

     

    The trails and information from that area use to be one of the best. Not so much now.

     

    Also the outhouse at the shelter is a disaster. WTF. And no other outhouses on the trails either. They are marked on the map but not there.

     

    :mad:

     

    Just because they were not groomed to perfection in your mind means they should be closed-marked red?

    its an off road sport, green means go, red is closed - for 20 plus years we drove up every weekend without knowing what, if anything was available, you rode what was there, how it was.

    groomer goes down, should we airlift in a replacement from the massive warehouse holding a fleet of groomers just sitting there doing nothing?

    peoples expectations are messed up, it is what it is, if you don't like a little sense of adventure or my goodness, have to endure some rough trail or adversity, find another hobby and stop shitting on the 3 or 4 people who worked hard to provide anything at all for people to ride.

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  3. Have over 2000 bucks tied up in my 2012 sled and my outdoor skating rink this winter.

    not looking like either will get used. 

    Starting to hate winter, more so cause it's doesn't happen anymore, I love winter and hate having no way to enjoy it.

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  4. On January 8, 2020 at 9:22 AM, paulslund said:

    Here's an interesting quick read about the  Occupiers’ Liability Act.

     

    https://diamondlaw.ca/blog/find-out-if-you-are-protected-under-ontario-premises-liability-law

     

    It appears that anyone entering property to commit a crime, or that is trespassing without the occupier's permission or knowledge, is not protected by the Liability Act..ie this means they assume the risks associated with entering the property.

     

    Seems to me that anyone not allowed on the OFSC prescribed trail is a trespasser and would have to bear the risks of doing so...

    In a very, very broad broad sense, but there is plenty of case law on these subjects and hence why lawyers love these claims and they exist is the 10's of thousands, they will bring them against, and to challenge the Occupiers liability act, municipal,act etc....

     

    Ask the OFSC how much it costs every year defending these claims.

    the point is, they are forced to defend these actions, right or wrong, which is not cheap.

     

     

  5. 3 hours ago, Blackstar said:

     

     

     

    I agree with the bold.

     

    I disagree.

     

    The trail and its users becomes the problem of the trail builders. If I was a land owner I wouldn't be signing that agreement unless you cover me for anything that could possibly happen while there is a trail in place. Snowmobiler, dog walker, crosscountry skier, hell a transport truck, what ever....It better be your problem not mine or you can put your trail somewhere else.

     

     

     

    I hear what you are saying and completely understand,  but 20 years in the casualty claims field I will tell you that if that is what the landowner wants, your permit price will need to quadruple at the very least to offer such coverage.

     

    like you, if I was a landowner I would take the same position, if I am at the ofsc table, I am taking theirs on this one, no way I would be opening that door to anything but our user group.

  6. 2 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:

    I agree but maybe there is a way to work together and reduce liability and insurance rates for both parties. There is power in numbers. Ofsc has done allot of good things it seems, in reguards to libabilty and insurance last several seasons. So I am optimistic this will get worked out for longer term, in near future. Wait and see it will take time for sure. Prey for snow. 

    I agree, but the answer is not having the ofsc provide liability coverage and defend and pay claims for non members, i.e. Non permit buyers. It's time for the other user groups to start paying their way. The trail closures are what hurt the most, but the ofsc are taking the right stand on this and I support it.

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  7. Guys, agreements, leases etc evolve and change with the times like everything else.

    i highly doubt anyone here would want their own personal insurance providing endless coverage to people it should not be and I for one am glad the ofsc and their carrier closed off this egregious open area of blanket coverage to users it's not intended too.

     

    we, us pass purchasers pay for that, we pay now, and we will pay later.

  8. I am in the stage of kids sports taking priority, I have a pass for this season but looking like the track will not turn a mile.

    i am just glad that I got to ride all those miles and years I did prior and am hopeful there will be somewhere left to ride when I can return, which will be in about 7 more years.

     

  9. 1 hour ago, Strong Farmer said:

    Maybe ofsc could start to self insure its trail system to cut costs. I don’t see why not. 

    They already are self insured, it's called a deductible.

  10. Over the last 3 years, I have spent on average a thousand dollars a season and gone less than 500 miles over those years.

    looking at our hockey schedule, for the first time in over  20 years, I am seriously considering no permit and yanking the insurance too for this year.

  11. 4 hours ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:

    IMHO the only problem with restricting who can see the ITG is that we may lose some prospective new sledders if they don't have the opportunity to see the vast network of trails available to them. We need to use every opportunity we have to get more people involved in our sport.

    Don't disagree, just saying by doing so, you open pandoras box to the freeloading asshats

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