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19 minutes ago, Sksman said:
Why are professional sports teams not required to wear masks of some sort? They are far from social Distancing. They are huffing and puffing on each other!
Full face shield?
Cloth mask?
They want to get everyone on board then have the big sports stars endorse the rules. The people who are idolized need to set examples not be exceptions.
Do do you think kids will take social distancing serious when the big stars don’t?
Cause they are tested daily and you can not perform at that level with masks on.
glad they are not wearing them.
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1 hour ago, Blake G said:
I'd say the OFSC has done an admirable job of representing the interests of snowmobile clubs.
Also an excellent effort by OFSC to keep sledders generally informed, to the extent possible.
THANK YOU
100%, amazing job, we are lucky to have the people we do in snowmobiling.
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28 minutes ago, stoney said:
Reading and seeing this stuff is just nuts....it is over the top crazy how society is getting so much worse, this fast over this whole thing.
Yup, and really, in all fairness, everyone's "opinion" on it, depends entirely on what oar you're holding in the same boat.
I remember just before school started, my neighbors , in their early 70's - aside from my own parents, nicest people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing, have their young grandson living with them full-time - along with their son - who has custody and goes to work everyday.
the Mrs. asked me if I was sending my kids to school and what my thoughts were.
It was hard to answer, but I told her, for my situation, knowing what I know, my worry factor was 0 for me and the kids - the kids were going to school with zero hesitation about it.
In the same breath, I told her, being honest, if I was her, or if I was in a situation that my elderly parents watch my kids everyday, I would probably be singing a different tune and be thinking differently.
Its impossible to find common ground on anything involving 14 million people.
You have to make the best decisions you can for yourselves.
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11 minutes ago, 02Sled said:
Exactly... if I don't get to use my trail permit this year. Oh well. That's the way it is. $190 is the cheapest part of the sport and I will buy a trail permit next year. Would everyone be grumbling like they are if it was simply a matter of no snow and predicting doom. If I have a very wet summer and don't get out in the boat I somehow don't think that I would get a refund on insurance and if I was at a marina a refund on dock fees. I won't get a refund on my season lock pass for the trent system either.
I have put less than 500 miles on my sled in the last 5 years - passes every year - I know it going into it - but would rather have it than not and see the money go to good use.
I have about a grand this fall into the pass, insurance and maintenance.
I haven't seen my sled since October and won't now until likely summer.
Great hobby
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12 minutes ago, 02Sled said:
If the person has COVID and dies it is very likely, almost certain that the virus is what caused their death. The person who has a heart condition but is able to live with that heart condition and has done so for many years catches the virus. That person dies because the virus pushes the persons health and ability to deal with that heart condition beyond what their body can handle. Did they die as a result of the virus? I say yes. If not for the virus they would still be alive.
I had a conversation with my friend a couple of weeks ago around cause of death for a person. They had a fall about a month earlier and there were health implications in the recovery from that fall but the person was recovering nicely. The person contracted the virus that resulted in a turn around in the recovery and the person passed. What would you say was the cause of death. If not for the virus the person would have fully recovered from the fall.
It doesn't matter what I "think", no doctor would draw that conclusion in writing without actual physical proof. That you can guarantee.
As an fyi - which I am sure you know, they aren't investigating if Covid had any causation in the deaths - hence the language being use and simple note the "case had covid".
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2 hours ago, ecarnell said:
So if skating rinks (and I suspect Zamboni’s will be running?) are open and limited to 25 people - would groomers not also be operating to maintain trails as snowmobiling is approved activity?
asking for a friend.
Until they release the official document sometime later today spelling out the specifics, nobody will really know, and at that point, decisions can and will be made.
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48 minutes ago, stoney said:
Would be interesting to see what is known at that level.
On the bold, I was not suggesting all deaths are grouped into the Covid numbers, assuming that is what you meant by that, just that a death is a Covid death IF The person is positive, regardless of underlining issues they have, which I think is conveniently being used as a tool right now to support an agenda that is not making sense.
100% correct - factual
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2 hours ago, 02Sled said:
One of the people I see in the park with his dog when I take our dog out for his afternoon walk is a Coroner. He signs death certificates. I believe I will ask him when I see him this afternoon what his take is on the numbers. Something tells me that those numbers don't include everyone who has died in Ontario. They may have pre-existing conditions that are manageable and they are living with but COVID was what pushed them over the line.
you don't need to ask him, the Government is clear in print the criteria.
The FACT is they have no way to know how many people have died FROM Covid. They aren't investigating it and haven't a clue - they are marking down any death where the person has Covid as Covid - cause matters not.
That's the criteria - I showed you that in the other thread that you ignored.........
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10 minutes ago, Yukon said:
Kinda like the 90 bed field hospital that was erected in Burlington, that is being used for covid patients that no longer require icu but still need to recover?
Yup - set-up quickly and had zero patients until now.
How about one in the West, three in Central - one in the east - a couple in the north?
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15 minutes ago, ontariof7 said:
I read. You just acknowledged that health care is being pressed to a brink.
And that beds can be free'd up for people needing treatment
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7 minutes ago, ontariof7 said:
Admittedly I have no science or health background to confirm your statement, I assume you do. Assuming you do. Here is the problem; when we move around, whatever that limited population you mention, is eventually going to be exposed. No??? Whatever, political party I support I do not envy a single politician attempting to navigate this world wide crisis that appears to morphing into something even worse.
I for one would be scared to death for me or a loved one placed into a 10 or less month unplanned health unit to pivot. Pivoting a clothing company to suddenly supply PPE is one thing...
For me; side line coaches belong yelling at ref's in their living rooms or judges on cooking bake off's. Not here.
See above - you're beds are full with people receiving NO treatment.
That can be handled differently.
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2 minutes ago, 02Sled said:
If you say so... lol
You're an educated man - read what ** says and let that sink in.
Number of active cases – 1,029
Number of total cases* - 7,562
Change from previous posting (cases) - +88
Number of deaths** – 206 (3%)
Change from previous posting (deaths) - +4Number of cases resolved – 6,079 (80%)
Number of cases ever hospitalized - 501 (7%)
Weekly rate of new cases per 100,000 population – 148
Reproduction number1 (Jan 7, 2020) - 1.16
6% of COVID-19 tests within the past 7 days had a positive result2*Total cases include both confirmed and probable cases.
**This measure refers to the number of COVID-19 cases who died. Deaths are included whether or not COVID-19 was determined to be a contributing or underlying cause of death. -
1 minute ago, 02Sled said:
So you believe they could have built more hospital rooms, produced more doctors and nurses in massive numbers in 8 months. They ramped up and have increased the availability of ventilators and PPE to meet the demand very quickly with the cooperation from businesses but the rooms, doctors and nurses can't happen that quickly.
Read again, I believe they can easily find accomodations elsewhere to manage LTC patients who need care, but are NOT BEING TREATED for Covid, yes I do.
You are not understanding how many of those particular groups are taking up ICU beds.
We relocate displaced families of all kinds all day every day - part of what we do.
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6 minutes ago, 02Sled said:
So would you have voted for a widespread unchecked uncontrolled virus that kills a lot of people?
yes - and for the record, they have NO idea how many it's killed.
Good luck "controlling" it - it's out of control and will be in control when you quit thinking and talking about it - poof - gone!
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8 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
They (not sure who that is) weren't alone as very many other areas of Canada and other countries are having the same issue. I'm pretty sure those in power like most of us were hoping the previously imposed measures would work. Few if any of those in power have been through anything like this before. Its real easy to point blame but if you or I were in their position would we make better choices? My crystal ball doesn't work that well.
Locally, my very good friend is a Covid ward Nurse, our capacity issues are LTC patients - who can't go back because of outbreaks or to eliminate causing one.
They are NOT being treated ( for Covid - but need the same care they get in LTC ), they are in ICU beds - quarantining and sitting there until they can return - some on the 1st wave were there for 3-4 months - sitting in ICU beds...
That is a problem and there is solutions for it - if you're willing to invest in those solutions.
Our government is not interested in that.
Their strategy instead is what we have been doing now for 10 months - it's failed - proven to fail and will continue to fail.
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6 minutes ago, 02Sled said:
And what would you have them do... build new hospital rooms. Graduate more doctors and nurses. All in less than a year. It's down to those who don't believe this is real and still party on as if it wasn't real. I watched security remove a crazy from the drug store 2 days ago while he insisted it was a violation of his rights to require a mask.
Healthcare is like any other business 02 - there are ways to pivot, ways to manage crisis - I know what we are able to accomplish in times of serious need and desperation when WE AREN'T EXPECTING IT, real time devastating losses for people, and we manage it, do it, and continue to manage our day to day, it can be done, in ALL places of business.
I place 100% of the blame on the Government for not providing the tools and resources for healthcare, it's on them, all of it.
Covid is real - it's "dire" affect is on a very, very very limited population of people, which is also real.
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On the bright side folks, it will be a nice surplus to carry into next year to be put to good use for us.
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10 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
The reality is that patients are being moved to make some room in ICU units in hospitals that have full or close to full ICU units in high covid case areas. If any of us had a family member or friend that happened to have a terrible accident in one of the high Covid 19 areas or any area for that matter and needed to be in an ICU bed I'm certain all of us would want a bed to be available for them. On the local evening news last night, they gave numbers of ICU beds that were available at city hospitals in our area (Guelph, KW, Cambridge). One had 3, and three had 2 ICU beds available with 3 patients having already been transferred from the Toronto area and more expected.
Reality is they did NOTHING to prepare for the increase they KNEW was coming - reported to us for months.
That is the reality.
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6 minutes ago, scottyr said:
Just heard from a good source within the industry that the OFSC is seriously considering closing the trails for 28 days. A final decision will be made this week.
To be honest, I don't see them doing anything but - it's the easiest solution for them to manage and they would be towing the communication line and heavy hand of the government, no business wants to be the "one" to go against that messaging.
It's done guys
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4 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
The way I read it, if they close the trails before the Feb. 16 cutoff date because of Covid, they only have to open one/some trail(s) sometime before the end of the season to negate the $50.00 credit.
I will get the credit
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56 minutes ago, manotickmike said:
I don't remember voting for any of this.
People holding power don't care.
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11 hours ago, signfan said:
Sled trails made the cut
Stay at home though. Not sure what to think.
Tie goes to the runner, they drafted this, it's grey, you win, ride away.
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8 hours ago, Blackstar said:
This was the fear I had when they did the closed trails between PHU's. They can leave trails open and campaign their "don't travel between PHU's" plan. No pay out for permit buyers.
Everything is politics and dollars these days. Hope the OFSC doesn't prove me right.
Yeah, but I live in an area with 0km of trails, my sled is in another completely different region, no open trails where my sled is and now a travel ban, so, I can't get to them if they open- my money will be coming back.
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Just now, vooodooo said:
It will be interesting to see. It appears snowmobile trails are not affected, however with the stay at home order the OFSC may have little choice but to do the hard stop like in March.
I assign no blame on the OFSC if things get shut down.
NONE - blame rests you know where.
State of emergency declared
in Main Clubhouse
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Sort of bubbled, they have tougher restrictions than we do.