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37 minutes ago, stoney said:
I wonder if they designed the vehicle based on hybrid model so non hybrid model has more spare space under the hood, body, etc…so people did not see the gain in possible space with non hybrid models….or the battery and electric motor really take up very little space.
I think the batteries are wider and flatter so more easily hidden.
regardless, good to hear you are happy with yours.
Do you ever compare with your neighbors the differences in fuel savings?Looking at either vehicle inside or outside there is 0 difference. Interior space is exactly the same.
I can’t speak to under the hood. I haven’t popped both beside each other to look, but I wouldn’t care anyway. You give up nothing on this model.
Normal daily driving the mileage is better, that I can tell you. drive hard, tow, or higher than 100k highway speeds, you aren’t saving anything.
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23 minutes ago, stoney said:
What space is lost in the vehicle with both a battery, gasoline engine and I assume electric motor that must attach to the vehicle drive train?
0, you'd never know the difference between mine and a non hybrid - they're identical on the inside and outside
My neighbor has the exact same vehicle - non hybrid model - can't tell
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1 hour ago, Dave K said:
I could see the benefit to a hybrid vehicle.
Honda makes one. Not a plug in hybrid, but the battery is charged by the gas engine, and engine shuts off and on as needed. IIRC.
I would never own a fully electric vehicle. Living in the country, everything is 20 minutes away ( except the snowmobile trail, I can see this from my house👍)
That is what I have.
I will admit it works VERY well - and IMO - is the absolute perfect/best of both worlds and nothing more than that is needed to save all of us from melting, or freezing, whichever the climate changers tell us will happen
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1 hour ago, Ox said:
At the end of the day, prices are only what folks are willing to pay.
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They are willing to pay whatever it takes - vs sleeping in tents on the street.
That is the point
People are "willing" out of necessity to pay double what they should be because there is NOTHING else available.
Our government had a very heavy hand in helping create that particular portion of the situation
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3 hours ago, Ox said:
Blows my mind when I see folks that seem like they have their head on straight most of the time - go and blame The Feds for housing prices.
Housing prices will follow what someone is willing to give for it. It is a supply and demand market. When the trend is going a certain way, it will continue that direction for a while, before swinging the other way again.
It was the easy money from The Flue that seemed to start this trend for whatever reason. And "work from home" is certainly influencing housing further from the eppicenters, and raising values in rural areas, and especially lakefront properties.
Just b/c you are willing to pay the new asking price, doesn't make it someone elses fault that you are over your head.
Buy a rat trap the next time.
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The problem is widespread and has many factors: It's not just one thing, that's for sure.
That said, the Feds do however have a big hand in it on the immigration policy.
When you allow insane immigration numbers into the country - you have to house those people.
There is only so much housing and demand has exceeded available housing - which naturally pushes values/costs upward.
It is a very easy problem to solve.
Canada right now is exactly like my work - our work feels we need to keep growing ( profit of course ) but there is no organic growth left - our only growth is through acquisition/consumption.
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10 hours ago, Sksman said:
My friend from Austria said Canada is the poorest rich country.
Europeans laugh at how we have so many resources and could be such a wealthy country across the board but our governments keep us down.
Everyone laughs at us these days.
Our hubris gets in the way of reality
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6 hours ago, Blackstar said:
My son won’t be a snowmobile owner. He’s talked about renting in Revelstoke but I doubt he will ever do that unless I’d go with him.
The boomers grew up with sleds and have/had the disposable income to afford it. As they leave our numbers will drop.
Go to a car show and look at all the grey haired car owners there. The numbers are dropping there too.
Things changes.
Geez, go to a big truck show!
things change and everything dies.
That's how it goes
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The way I see it is that the only way to get new or more people involved is through us. That’s it.
i just don’t see someone completely removed and ignorant to it seeing a sled go by and going out to get one.
Anyone I have taken out has enjoyed it, but they don’t have cottages, and the cost to get in are just too much. You can suggest buying a cheap older sled, but most don’t want that, and most have 0 ability to turn a wrench and fix what they can.
it’s a different landscape.Adapt or die
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2 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:
Why being so negative about sled dealers disappearing.
.i am hopping for mega cold then snow to put some smiles and miles on my new Polaris.I’m not.
That would be wishing for it to happen,
What I am being is not surprised
I am in your boat.
i want to see it all thrive and last forever
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2 hours ago, scottyr said:
Peak Powersports just announced they are winding down their Oakville location.
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3 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:
When I was at brp dealer a little while ago. I heard from inside service guy they might come up with a 15 year limit. Older than that they don't work on it. He claims the older stuff takes up space waiting on parts, techs can't hook up thier computer either. Training totally different today than it was 20 years ago.
Well, in 10 years, there won’t be anything to work on except to change a battery!
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12 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
You can usually find independants willing to work on older bikes. My friend has grown his business to where he has 2 other techs working with him in the shop.
I'm actually surprised people wouldn't want to work on older bikes - wouldn't those be actual "mechanics" - not part changers?
Easier to work on too?
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Yup, saw Dover turnout was strong.
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9 hours ago, Blackstar said:
Sounds like there is a lot more reasons for failure there then just a soft market.
There is, and in today’s world, anyone not new or not owning their buildings in an impossible situation.
Harley like to force units too.
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Even the almighty are feeling things somewhat.
Reducing inventory...... - reducing prices will help reduce inventory
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22 minutes ago, signfan said:
Yep. The funding from the gov't has gotten smaller each year. Especially with inflation factored in.
Don’t expect it to grow either, unless your plan is turn sled trails into e-bike trails.
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Why would the MTO care what the price is.
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The OFSC hand clubs have done absolutely everything they can to drive new ridership.
overall costs and lousy weather are working against it.
I have taken 10 plus friends sledding for the 1st time.not oneof them has bought a sled, and isn’t because they didn’t enjoy it.
cost and time are the factors
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35 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said:
I lost my trail access too a number of years ago. I still buy permits and find legal places to park. I found we can ride different areas now to switch it up. I didn't trailer anymore then about 30 mins from house this year. I rode a wider variety of trails with my son that wouldn't be possible without trailer. Trail access is a privilege and unless you get involved and do some of leg work it is impossible to count on it year after year.
yes, but the point being, not everyone is like you or willing to do what needs to be done to go riding, its easier to say screw it than put a little effort into it.
You have to LOVE sledding to be in it and stay in it these days, liking it isn't enough anymore.
As soon as you complicate things, there are a lot of people that will just say forget it.
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43 minutes ago, Sksman said:
The issue OFSC has for permit sales is not how to get the 5,000 - 10,000 die hard sledders to buy a $350 dollar permit but to get the occasional 3-5 time a year convenient I buy a pass for the year because I might ride guy to keep buying. There are a lot of those guys!
Where does the supply price vs demand curve cross on the charts?
My area last year had no club. How will that impact next years sales? Down 1 permit possibly in my garage because I permitted 2 sleds last season and might not buy 2 this season if trail access not restored.
I know another guy that bought 2 and never rode the trails because of no connection. So OFSC could be down 2-3 permits because of poor management decisions! And there are a few others.
It’s a tough game they are playing!So when you're primary source of revenue is permit generated, and that number continues to decline, while operating expenses go up, it stands to reason why there is nothing left to dole out to clubs in need, and more precisely, when in need......
This particular club needs funds now - it may not exist.
OFSC have funds when permits are purchased - i.e. fall/winter.
Money is spent
No easy answer here other than to try and grow the membership, while trying to lower/shed expenses.
all easier said than done, while following along with whatever other rules and restrictions are in place for the OFSC based on their operations.
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20 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
There is no easy way of telling. With on phone and printed multi days it physically looks like a lot of sleds don't have permits. To my knowledge, the club checks by "trail ambassadors" has no enforcement power behind it so anyone who wants to can drive on.
I believe it is paid duty but for the number of trail km's. it is very sparce.
I bet you could count total yearly province wide trespass convictions on your fingers or add your toes at most. I've never heard of any of that money going to the OFSC.
So the good news is - the OFSC are not paying for enforcement - it's already being done.
The bad news is - enforcement is primarily related to other offences - and not really permit related, and if permit related, the OFSC and member clubs don't see a dime of any fine levied for a permit infraction.
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1 hour ago, 95rxl650 said:
People that whine about permit costs obviously have no other outlet for fun and ride without a permit anyway. It's a small drop in the expense bucket. It cost me more to respool a few reels just for early spring fishing not to mention the rest of the years seasonal fishing.
Whats a couple Starbucks a day cost? Or going to a concert or even taking the family out for a decent meal.
People need to realize the cost of entertainment is always costly. A trail permit is about as cheap as it gets. Volunteers wont be there forever if they cant get an assist when Shyte goes south. It's alot of physical output to clean up messes like we've had and guys with time on their hands are usually older. I'm sure a rowboat a beer and a bobber to stare at seems more appealing on a hot summer day.
I do think you are right in questioning what people who complain about the cost of a permit actually do with their spare time. I honestly can’t think of anything cheaper.My mens league hockey costs $625.00 for winter, $525 for summer. Thats a once a week outlet.
my kids single hockey stick is $425.00. He went through 9 this season, 4 were warranty replacements, but I paid for 5.
I get the OFSC needing to keep it as low as possible, but people need to be realistic with what they are getting and have a better understanding of where that money goes.
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3 hours ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said:
If they really want to increase income they need to really increase permit enforcement. The way it currently is there is very minimal enforcement. Riders can ride with paperwork or phone proof so it is very hard to tell if passing sleds actually have a permit and that affords the freeloaders even more opportunity to ride unchecked.
Permits are getting placed on sleds wherever the rider desires (we saw 2 Doo's near Mattawa this winter with the permits on back side of the left side A arm plastic tunnel cutouts).
You see very few sleds without permits in Quebec because they have exceptional enforcement and stiff fines.
Is OPP sled patrol part of their paid duty? Or considered “extra”?
Also, does the oFSC see any of the trespass ticket revenue? Or does that go to the same place HTA violation fines go?
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Blatantly ignoring a "well known" problem - resulting in numerous failures and customers left holding the bag = class action and punitive damages.
There are many reasons for "problems"