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  1. For fun built a Boost Indy VR1 137 Dynamix Package 2 and it comes to $30,328 😲

     

    also noticed the heated seat option is $744 now, 

     

    other than the dynamix shock system I didn’t notice too much new 

     

    nice looking line up, 

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  2. I’ve only managed 64 miles this season, and 0 last year but I am not able to get away the past few seasons , next year should be better to get away and ride 

    Some might land good deals with left over inventory at dealers 

    would guess snow check orders will be low for 2025 but who knows 

  3. 13 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:

    Eeekeee. 
    I have no experience with Polaris triples. Only tripple I ever owned was that 2003 Yamaha viper. Good engine, good handling sled. Ride was terrible for it's time. 
    Mach z we had trouble with engines. My friend blew his up twice. Then he got a Mach 1  700 late 99's model no issues with that one. 
    I have been eying some classic to purchase and maybe there is a reason you can't find many storms 😆, especially in wedge chassis. 
    I came across a nice 1993 xlt special with 2300 original miles. The guy has owned it since 1994. Thinking of going and getting it for fun. Looks mint for year.,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRr2uJrfNhA
     

    this guy has quite the Doo collection 

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  4. 8 hours ago, Spiderman said:

    The Storms were not that bad - and the original 747 ( 1993 only ) was actually pretty good.

     

    My 2000 XCR 800 was an incredible sled/motor.

     

    3 sleds I should have kept and regret not doing so

     

    1996 Ultra 680 - once I put the SLP triple pipes and Erlandson clutch kit etc. on, it was one of the most fun sleds to ride - it was so fast in the trails

    2000 XCR 800 - just a great engine and sled - loved it

    2004 Pro-X 600 - it had low mileage -handled amazing - I almost kept it to have a Carls Cycle 660 kit put in it and should have

     

    Polaris are doing great things.

    Cat are doing great things

     

    There are a lot of great sleds out there to choose from - we're lucky- but the pricing is killing the sport

     

     

     

    My dad had a 2000 XCR 800 and it was a great sled and yes we wished we had kept it too

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  5. 20 hours ago, Blackstar said:

     

    The 600's didn't have motor issues like the 900's. They were decent. There were still quality issues with all the Fusions.

     

     

    Every time you had your Fusion in to the dealer and they did a recall repair, the dealer would add a sticker to the airbox so others would know what had been done. My 900 had 13 stickers after 2 years......😁

     

    I believe I took it back to the dealer 7-8 times during those 2 years and I had to tow it off the trail twice. The dealers weren't a lot of help because these things were all over their service bays with very few answers from Polaris. Mechanics taking apart sleds they'd never seen before.

     

    One of the recalls was to put a zip tie on the main wiring harness connector because in one of the previous recalls the mechanics had to disconnect and reconnect that plug but the problem was the little keeper latch that held the 2 halves together would break and then the plugs would come apart later. That was how I ended up with a sled that shut off and would not restart on the Sequin. I got towed into Sprucedale on a strap. A local with a trailer took my sled and myself back to Oxtongue Lake where I was staying and helped me load it on my trailer.

     

    Its funny now but it was not so much then.😁

     

    That’s a lot of recalls lol

  6. My dad never had issues with his 95 Storm 800 but i heard many did, wish we had kept it and the XCR 800 triple 

    The Fusion 900 was a low point for sure i heard the 600s were good , never had the chance to try either 

  7. 14 minutes ago, stoney said:

    As a manufacturer you build x number of sleds per year that need to go to dealerships to keep the assembly line moving, etc….so I understand the theory behind it, especially with good and bad years that no one can really forecast. 
    There will also be buyers and as long as the manufacturer provide the incentive rebates to dealers when products don’t sell in a timely manner, I think it’s not a bad system. 

    Having dealers as well that sell all lines of products means they should be able to absorb a bad year with sleds but good year with other product lines - it’ll help balance the books when you consider all 12 months and not just 3 or 4 months of sledding.

    Other products are a necessity atv and utvs are the bigger business 

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  8. 12 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said:

    Yeah some dealers will just say screw it and close up and just do service. That's happened to allot of dealers around here.

    Sure glad I am not a snowmobile dealer after this whacko winter. I even see guys on market place trying to down load unused 2 stroke oil from this season. 😆

    Skidoo use to have a dealer in what seemed every small town but years ago changed and made them buy more product and from that decision lost a large number of dealers 

    they are not struggling by any means today  but I really questioned pushing out a hefty portion of your network 

    cat and Poo have lost a lot

    of dealers the same way, just the way it is today 

     

  9. 3 hours ago, scottyr said:

     

    I think the BRP predictions are pretty much spot on.    Seeing as their MY25 Dealer Launch is virtual I predict nothing major.    Just progression.     

     

    It will be interesting to see how BRP handles the GPS situation in Ontario now that the OFSC will not share their mapping.   

     

    When I was at the sled show, I was talking to a nice gal from Garmin and she told me that the new Cat/Garmin gauge will not work in Ontario unless something changes within the OFSC.   

     

    I was chatting with my dealer last night and he said they are predicting to do about 1/3 of the Spring Breaks that they did this year and BRP is signalling that they are expecting dealers to step up with the same order that they did for MY24.   

     

     

    Putting the pressure on the dealers to maintain manufacturing volume isn’t that fair to me 

    some will be stuck with units they can’t sell 

    leading to lower trade in values for those who trade frequently 

     

  10. 39 minutes ago, gobills said:

    My prediction a tank in New sales across the board.

     

    Major price increase will drive more people away.  

    This seasons weather will definitely not help sales for 2025

     

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  11. 9 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said:

    Nice I guess a high powered xcr would be nice too: Give me twin pipes and close to 200 hp and a 5 year warranty 👻

    Rumour of a new Polaris chassis sorta surprised me a bit, seems early 

  12. 11 PREDICTIONS FOR 2025 SNOWMOBILES

    Posted by FAST TRAC on Jan 18, 2024

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    ARCTIC CAT

    All of Arctic Cat’s new models have been released for 2025. The big surprise came in September when they unveiled the new 858cc 2-stroke motor and the new Garmin gauge with GPS. So, we’ll speculate for 2026.

    NEW 4-STROKE TURBO THAT FITS IN CATALYST CHASSIS

    2026 will be the first year without a Yamaha motor. The 4-stroke turbo has put both manufacturers on the map, and we don’t see Arctic Cat abandoning that market. 4-strokes also serve a huge purpose to compensate for the 2-stroke emissions under government regulation, so they serve a need to consumers and regulations.

    One rumor about why Yamaha bailed on the sled market is that the Catalyst cannot house the 998 triple 4-stroke motor as it is. Before the Yamahacat days, Arctic Cat pioneered the factory 4-stroke snowmobile and had high horsepower in a Suzuki twin. It was a highly regarded motor and made high hp with upgraded tunes. We think Arctic Cat will return to a twin-cylinder 4-stroke turbo that can be bolted into the Catalyst. It’s not ideal for a company to have multiple chassis for 2-stroke and 4-stroke.

    So, who is going to make the motor? Will Arctic Cat return to what they know in the Suzuki twin, or will they look to another company owned by their parent company? Weber is owned by Textron and produced the 750FST for Polaris in the late 2000s. Our bet is they keep it in-house to maximize the bottom line, and Weber produces a solid replacement for the Yamaha motor, which, combined with the Catalyst chassis, provides a significantly improved machine.

    858 TURBO?

    We think this is in the works, but maybe a year too soon. Arctic Cat is keen on dropping a significant improvement or motor a year, so our bets are a new 4-stroke before we see the 858 with a turbo.

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    BRP (SKI-DOO & LYNX)

    2025 SKI-DOO RELEASE DATE: FEBRUARY 19TH OR 20TH

    For 24, Ski-Doo brought most of the remaining Gen 4 models to the Gen 5 chassis, bringing all models except Sport and Utility to the new platform. We don’t see the sport chassis getting refreshed to a Gen 5 for quite some time. The last refresh went from XP to Gen 4 and skipped a generation, so there is no constant timeline.

    850 TURBO R LINEUP EXPANDED

    The most significant move we think Ski-Doo will make is expanding the 850 Turbo R lineup to the Backcountry and potentially a 129. The Backcountry with a turbo makes a lot of sense as it becomes a sled that can perform well in the Midwest and mountains of the West. We also think it will be possible to get Smart Shox with the 850 Turbo R for 25. They alluded in a tech video that they didn’t want to test the waters for one year before going all out.

    BUILT-IN GPS

    We do think for 25, the models will finally get a built-in GPS and no longer depend on a cell phone. It’s been the weakest spot for the gauge since it debuted, and we are surprised it hasn’t been addressed already. Arctic Cat’s Garmin gauge will have built-in GPS, so it doesn’t sound like patents prevent them from doing this.

    NEW COLORS

    Ski-Doo likes to run the same or similar color patterns for two years on trail models and then switch it up. 2025 is year three, so expect to see some new color schemes for the MXZ and Renegade.

    LYNX 4-STROKES MOVE TO RADIAN2 CHASSIS

    Last year, many Lynx models were upgraded to their equivalent of the Gen 5 chassis called the Radien 2. The 4-stroke X-Terrain model stayed in the previous chassis. They will likely move these models to a wide-body chassis with new gauge and LED headlights.

    LYNX X-TERRAIN 850 WITH TRAIL-FRIENDLY TRACK OPTIONS

    Last year, BRP brought the Lynx crossover to the North American market. It had the trail front end but, in a surprising decision, did not include an option for a trail-friendly track. It was only available with a 2” lug. The machine has the specs to compete directly with the Polaris Assault but missed that key detail. We think they will make the switch, and you will see a 1.6 Cobra option this year, which would be a formidable option to the Assault crowd that loves the trail front end.

    POLARIS

    2025 POLARIS RELEASE DATE: AROUND MARCH 4TH

    Last year, we predicted some incremental changes to the Polaris line using existing motors and technologies, and what we got was essentially the same lineup as 2023. They might have held back last year for a couple of reasons: 1. To get back to reliable delivery dates and 2. Save a big splash for their 70th anniversary.

    NEW CHASSIS?

    Rumors are that a new chassis is being released. It would be a year or two early in the timeline they’ve followed over the last 15 years. The Pro-Ride was five years, and the Axys was 6. This would be four years for the Maytrx. We can see a few justifications to bump it up a year. Sales over the Maytrx timeline have been excellent, so the chassis investment was paid off sooner than in years past. Second, Polaris has the oldest 2-stroke chassis on the market, with increased competition from Ski-Doo’s Gen 5 and Arctic Cat with the Catalyst. Third, it’d likely be a less costly update and maintain most of the tooling from the Maytrx chassis, similar to Ski-Doo’s latest update with the Gen 4 to the Gen 5 using a ton of the same parts like tunnel and items under the plastic. Fourth, this puts them on a better timeline for the 75th anniversary to get five years before an update.

    9R IN TRAIL SLEDS/9R OR BOOST IN XCR

    We are 50/50 on this one. Polaris could be holding on to this one to stoke some fire into the lineup for this season. Dropping an existing motor into an existing model is a no-brainer to consumers, but will it make financial sense for Polaris? At the end of the day, if Polaris feels adding the 9r to trail sleds and more options to the XCR will sell more sleds and increase profit, they’ll do it. We don’t know the reliability of the 9r at sea level or the warranty cost on the back end. We also don’t know if it would hurt Boost sales. If it would, we don’t see it ever happening. Either way, Polaris has the number crunchers working hard every year to determine what motor options make sense.

    SEMI-ACTIVE OR ACTIVE SUSPENSION

    It’s been two model years since Ski-Doo released Smart Shox, and Polaris did not answer in the first two years. We know this is a matter of when, not if. They have a semi-active suspension on their UTVs, so they are familiar with the technology. The fastest path would be to use Fox, the same company doing their Dynamix shocks, but who knows, maybe Arctic Cat has exclusive rights to the technology on snow as they’ve had ATAC for quite some time. Polaris purchased Walker Evans last year and may want to develop something in-house. We think 2025 is the year Polaris releases active suspension on their sleds.

    YAMAHA

    2025 YAMAHA RELEASE DATE: LIKELY 3RD WEEK IN MARCH

    With the announcement of 2025 being the last year for Yamaha, no improvements or changes are expected for this model year. It’s a sad ending after many decades in the business.

    COMMEMORATIVE GRAPHICS

    We expect graphics celebrating the legacy, and honoring the last year of production but that’s about it—last chance to get a Sidewinder that has dominated the high horsepower segment since its inception.

    Comments are open below; let us know what you think will be coming for 2025!

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