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6 hours ago, zoso said:
It is great that they now have no more excuses for spending massive amounts of money on the AGM. It was argued you could not do it remotely. Once again I have been proven correct. Never again should permit money be spent on expensive hotel rooms, meals, flights, travel mileage, and conference rooms.
Saving money sounds great on paper but there is a lot of provincial disconnection right now, lots of clubs floundering with next to no volunteers and no clear direction of how to do things. Some volunteers adapted well to doing it this way, many haven't.
Without volunteers and them having a good grasp of how to do things correctly and clubs relying more and more on OFSC staff to direct the direction of the org, along with clubs/districts and the OFSC having to contract out a lot of what used to be day to day operations (which has been grossly accelerating even before Covid). Costs to keep trails open are going to be a lot higher than an in person AGM could ever be IMO.
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1 hour ago, stoney said:
I think for many it is also about getting together as a whole org for some socializing and share what each do, that works or does not work, etc....
I get that some may find this an unproductive way to spend some money too - but for some this is getting a little back for all the volunteering, and is that such a bad thing.
IMO that is always just as important as making sure your club carried the votes voice of it's membership. Over the past 18 years I've seen many new volunteer club exec leave AGM weekend with the knowledge and go to friendships from other clubs to give them a good running start at running a club. Most are still well involved. 🍻
Seems like yesterday Yukon, TVBrian and myself were doing AGM seminars/workshops on how to set your club up with a Webpage, then a few years later Social media lol 🍻
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4 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:
I would connect to the wall thermostat J18 connector, you can use a wifi thermostat directly if the contacts are voltage (potential free) or an interposing relay connect to a wifi switch. The switch energizes the relay coil, the relay contacts are wired in series to enable/disable the circuit and then uses the existing thermostat. You then don't have to be concerned about mixing voltages.
3 hours ago, UsedtoSkidoo said:Why not use the WIFI thermostat directly. It will work.
2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:You can connect the unit directly to a wifi switch if you can get it to autostart when power is applied.
The circuit I showed you will just control the tstat, not go through a startup procedure. That is not shown in the circuit and may not be possible.
2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:You can. How is the wifi thermostat powered, if it is from the unit then it needs compatible voltages (ie 24V) or powered independently, hence the voltage isolation using a relay.
2 hours ago, UsedtoSkidoo said:usually by batteries and then 24v signal unless you dont have a common wire which its them powered by......................batteries.
Just have to check them regularly
Thanks guys, I'll fiddle with it this weekend. I'm guessing it all depends on if it stays on in a standby by mode when hooked to a thermostat ? I did read this in the manual and check the cold start procedure they refer to, it wasn't of much help lol
QuoteThermostat
An external wall thermostat (such as our Part # PU-DTSTAT) can be used on our pellet units, as long as it is a low-voltage type that works with millivolt systems. After unplugging the unit, locate the jumper wire (J-18) on the bottom of the control panel. The two screws should then be loosened and the jumper wire removed from the board. Next, the two thermostat lead wires should be slipped into these openings and the screws tightened; the jumper wire should be saved for future operation without a thermostat. The unit will operate differently once the wall thermostat is connected – we recommend the Control Board be set at “9” on Heat Range and Blower Speed while using the thermostat. Refer to the section on “Start-up Procedure” for information on cold starts.
Sorry didn't mean to highjack your post Stoney
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40 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:
I would connect to the wall thermostat J18 connector, you can use a wifi thermostat directly if the contacts are voltage (potential free) or an interposing relay connect to a wifi switch. The switch energizes the relay coil, the relay contacts are wired in series to enable/disable the circuit and then uses the existing thermostat. You then don't have to be concerned about mixing voltages.
You kind of lost me there lol Would I be able to leave it turned off and turn it on on Thursday or Friday morning ?
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17 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:
The wifi cameras are great, both Blink and Eufy batteries will last over 6 months with varied use and not to many false signals, ie wind moving leaves etc.
A wifi switch should connect to a potential free relay in the circuit since you will have two voltage sources (120V and low DC from the circuit). Do you have the circuit? I'm an electrical engineer if you recall and do controls automation for a living. Piece of cake.
Awesome thanks
Here's a link to the manual for the stove, circuit diagram page 21.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2071/6041/files/25-PDVC_USandCANADA.pdf?14626357853177001156
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13 minutes ago, LuvMyViper said:
I use these wifi temp and humidity sensors. They work great. I also have the water sensors. They have all kinds of wifi sensors and on/off switches.
From Amazon
WiFi Temperature and Humidity... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08PVKLZHC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Thanks Rick, going to start doing more wifi stuff for piece of mind and convenience. So far we've got a 4 camera set up and a bunch of lighting tapped into our phones. The garage pellet stove is a bit of pita to figure out, I need an electronics guru to tap into the stoves on off circuit in the motherboard, so I can jump it to a wifi switch.
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6 minutes ago, stoney said:
Ya, I remember the pictures of it and all the work that went into it.....it was not on the small side for sure.
Good news on the update / relocation, I had no idea.
Stayed on the same general area, but in a much better spot, IMO.
It is much better spot, plus no partners in on this one.
It's the perfect area for us, just over an hour commute from home, with the Haliburton/Victoria County Rail Trail right at our doorstep. Never worry about snow conditions in the winter, and access to 100's and 100's of km of SxS trails in the off season. Another bonus is road use with the SxS, the only road we can't ride on is HWY 35 south of Minden, everything else is legal, trail connectivity is just as good as sledding with road runs and bridges taking the place of lake running.
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8 hours ago, signfan said:
900 sq ft cottage. Electric heat and a wood stove. Our hydro bills run $140 a month in the winter if we are using it most weekends. $90 a month for the months we aren't there. Only thing left on is the heated line to the lake and a fridge. So I figure our heat is costing us $200 a winter (4 months at $50 a month). The heated line would run regardless of our use. We do burn wood when there which is work, but no cost as we cut ourselves. Yes it can be a touch chilly coming in, but we dress accordingly. About 3 hours for the wood stove to get the place to 20 degrees. By Hour 5 if you've been feeding it steady you're sitting in your underwear sweating. An electric blanket solves the cold bed issue in a hurry. I have the water startup and draining to around 15 mins total. Has been some trial and error, but it's almost flawless now. We also haven't bothered with plowing the road. We have a good Pelican sleigh and bring our stuff in behind the sleds (2 miles from a township plowed lot). It's not for everyone, but we enjoy the roughing it feeling you get in the winter. Once we're in it's as comfortable as home and has us right in the middle of the trail system. I am looking forward to having the wifi thermostats this winter. Heat will be on by noon on Fridays meaning the place will have had 6 - 8 hrs of heat on in it when we arrive. Will be interesting to see what that does to the hydro costs.
That's going to be a game changer.
We have high speed internet but I just haven't bothered to put in a wifi thermostat, keeping it at 58 it's less than hour to get up to 70 in the cottage. But want to do something with the garage since it's where we spend most of our time, it takes a few hours to get up to temp with only a pellet stove. Right now it's a none issue with a buddy down the road hitting the on button for us Thursday or Friday mornings. But I would like to figure out a way to have it turn on via wifi.
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55 minutes ago, stoney said:
The layout of the cottage plays a big factor no doubt.
If I recall details from when Nutter Reno’d the place him and I think a few others have, it was a two story structure in cottage and the garage too, that will be harder to heat and take longer to heat up vs. a single story open concept with wood stove.
Lots of good info here though based on what works for each circumstance!The 2 story was our flip cottage/house in Norland Stoney, we finished that 5 years ago, that one was huge, we doubled the size of it, and added an attached garage. We bought this one in 2017 just north Kinmount in Howland Junction right on the rail trail, just a bungalow, intentions were to flip this one too, but we like it there so much it's keeper.
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1100sqft cottage, 3 bedroom 1 bath open concept kitchen, dining and living room and 10x8 mud/laundry room addition. 40 inch crawl space on piers, sand ground with 8 mil polly covering it, outer walls in crawl space skirted with wood and 2 inch Styrofoam, under floor is pink fiber held up with stapled strapped Tyvek. Cottage and garage are both 70's 2x4 stick frame, new insulation and vapor barrier when we bought and did a full gut reno on the cottage, also pulled the oil furnace and went to propane, pellet stoves in both cottage and insulated unattached 24x26 garage. We leave the furnace at 58 when were not there, no ducting underneath never had any pipes freeze. Turn the furnace up to 70 and pellet stoves on when we get there, up to temp within the hour and the furnace doesn't run again till about 12-24 hours after we leave (we usually leave the pellet stoves running after we leave till they run out of pellets).
We hang out in the garage living/party room 90% of the time, ceiling fan and window wide open with a fan in it on high blowing heat out, as even on lowest burn setting it's tough to keep it at 70 or under. Once that slab floor in the garage heats up it holds the heat well, usually only 4 days home before heading back up and it stays above freezing in there, usually around 10 deg, I think the coldest I've seen it was 5 deg.
Two 420 tank fills a year and a bag of pellets every 24 - 30 hours for each stove ($6.50 a bag) while were up. Cost for both propane and pellets is $1200 to $1500 a year. Small price to pay for the convenience of leaving it heated and not messing with draining plumbing. Growing up with a family cottage my dad would always shutter the place every week, usually always had to screw with getting the water going, 3 - 4 hours till you could get down to a sweater, furniture and bedding held the damp cold till well into Sat eve LOL
Never bothered to see what our cost would be shuttering every week and re heating from what ever temp it dropped too, I bet it wouldn't be a very big difference. Defiantly not worth the inconveniences to us anyways.
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1 minute ago, zoso said:
There is no such law. Much like telling us how many plated cars are in the province.
I'm not saying there's a law but you can bet there is a contractual chain of custody with all information collected through trail permit sales.
Could a private service Ontario outlet publicly release provincial MTO stats ?
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14 minutes ago, signfan said:
It's released to the clubs and districts. I don't think it's any big secret. US sales would be off, but the surge in Ontario riders more than made up for it. Sales were up, but I haven't seen the final figures. Being a government permit freedom of information would obligate the province to release the numbers if one asked. I'm sure there's easier ways to attain it though.
As the old saying goes, if one has enough concern over such numbers then they should have enough concern to be involved with their local club at some capacity, where they will be able to see all those numbers.
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28 minutes ago, Turbo Doo said:
Why this info can't be made public season after season is beyond me. I know some seasons it's released in a pie graph or something like that, but what's the issue.
I believe the reason is because permits belong to the MTO (instrument of the province), the OFSC is the exclusive selling agent of the permit and distributor of the funds to the districts (formerly clubs). Legally that info can only be shared to these stake holders, which includes districts, clubs and their members.
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4 hours ago, revrnd said:
I'm pretty sure that is the case.
Yeah it is.
According to ON NFP Corp law the club prez, VP or treasurer are the only legal officers of the club/corp, and the only ones that can legally have a board seat representing the club.
Silly but the actual perfectly legal way around this stupid BS is for each clubs prez to resign (remove themselves from the district table) and for each club to hold an election and make the one of the 3 corp officers whom doesn't groom (which hopefully you have) the interim club prez. Then the Dist have a board meeting with all the non grooming interim club prez's to set the district grooming wage. Then hold another election and put the original prez back in. The way NFP legislation is now written, legally a club/NFP corp cannot even have an alternate officer attend for a club to have a vote if the prez is unable to attend a dist board meeting.
I'm guessing this works good to heed fraud in NFP corps, in the case of the OFSC (which likely there isn't another NFP corp comparison in how they operate) it causes so much hardship for the org)
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Unless Ontario not for profit corp laws have changed in the past few weeks, a club president or anyone that sits on a club or district board can be paid to groom, or paid for any other agreed upon paid position. Though they must remove themselves from the table during any and all discussions and decision making regarding paid positions.
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Keep in mind dealers get paid for warranty work by manu's in parts credit, I would think that would have a huge bearing in what gets stocked and what gets ordered. I'm guessing they need to turn over warranty credit parts as quick as possible just to cover the cost of the warranty work they did. For sure a juggling act I wouldn't want to deal with.
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Have next Tuesday and Wed night booked at the Advantage in Kap that we haven't canceled yet, (2 beds). Going to Stay in Hearst for those nights then back to Kap for Thursday. Let me know if someone wants the room, I'll hang on to them till tomorrow then cancel them.
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1 minute ago, Turbo Doo said:
Snowing now in Kap. They have been past the Super 8 twice with the salters and plows.
Encouraging news, thanks for the report, just canceled Mondays check in at the Westway and booked further west.
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22 hours ago, gobills said:
Rotax 1630 Ace super charged watercraft mill detuned from 230 - 300hp to 180 -200hp ?
https://www.rotax.com/en/products/rotax-powertrains/details/rotax-1630-ace.html
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Another vote here for Mission. Messed with many brands and styles over the years, full face fixed, modular, MX, nothing compares, have over a 1000kms on it so far this season and it's been flawless. Lightweight, incredible field of vision, very quiet and warm with zero leaks, have only plugged in when riding when heavy wet snow was falling. When not plugged in it tends to fog a bit if I'm muscling a workout in the tight stuff at slow speeds, but as soon as you grab a little speed it clears really fast. The internal flip down sun shield works great no issues with it fogging so far. Was worried about the adjustable visor catching wind at speed, which it doesn't at any speed, and it stays in the position you want it at, up or down and big enough to block the sun glare mornings and eves. Also as Nunz mentioned no issues riding with visor up when you feel the need to cool off and breath a little fresh air.
My helmet speakers fit really well and with it being such a quiet helmet I have no need to crank up my tunes, unless something really good is playing. The quietness does mess with trailside talking though, I talk loud enough as it is, but apparently now with this lid everyone thinks I'm yelling at them, even with it open lol
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On 1/16/2021 at 8:45 AM, Muskoka1 said:
Prob. hundreds=Schliefenbaum descended from German royalty-really old $!
No royalty or old money in the Schliefenbaum family, Peters dad was a mining engineer that bought a bunch at the time logged out scrub land no one wanted for a mere $7 an acre. Peter is a self made hard working well educated millionaire.
"In the first half of the 20th century, Canadian lumber companies so thoroughly logged Haliburton Forest that by the 1960s it had almost no value. In 1962 Adolf Schleifenbaum, a German mining engineer, bought the forest for $7 an acre. Nine years later, he crashed his plane in Germany and died. His son Peter was nine"
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On 11/4/2020 at 10:33 AM, Big Pete said:
According to the OFSC October Newsletter only District 3 and District 9 are NOT printing District Guides this year.
Don't know about 9, but D3 is just using up our surplus from last season, no significant trail changes other than some side shuffling through the same fields. We also felt with local businesses hurting like most others, we'd pass on the savings to them with them getting a second season free.
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6 hours ago, Fuse6 said:
Never rode this area before.
ls there enough loop options to ride 4-5 days out of one location.
What are the trail conditions normally like for this area and grooming frequency.
Any suggestions for lodging? Prefer cabins or chalets for 7-8 guys.
TIA
Hey Steve hope all is good with you and the fam. We stopped saddle bagging and started hubbing out of one place a few years ago, after getting tired of keeping a pace. Great chance to check out all the local trails and loops, and other local attractions you passed right on by trying to make it on time to your next destination before dark.
We've been using New Liskeard as a hub at least once a season for the past 3 years. Lots of good long and short day options out of there and/or Kirkland Lake. Even the ride out to Gowganda and back with a little change up coming back into town is a great day of riding. We usually just stay at the Quality Inn for convenience, but lots of options for what your looking for in the surrounding area.
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9 minutes ago, 04nightfire said:
Just finished transferring it. Easy Peasy. Now fingers crossed mother nature doesn't drop this rain on us
Good stuff brother. Praying for the jet stream to dip a 100 - 200kms south, a side from needing more cold things are starting to look decent in central Ontario
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At first I wasn't sold on even just the thought of online sales, but having been privy in the past to seeing the costs and loses, and seeing and experiencing first hand the volunteer burden, stress and safety that came with live sales it changed my view on it real fast.
I really don't like the online driver training at all. It takes away the first contact new young sledders have to volunteerism, and it's importance to organized snowmobiling, along with all the other things live courses provided hands on in person. However I do know if the boat license people were successful in their bid for it we likely would of been totally shut out. Shitty all around.