stoney Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Lets try this again, and hopefully an important sled related topic stays in the Sled section of this forum where it belongs..... So it appears a Cat dealer has just become a CF Moto dealer....might be a coincidence, who knows. CF Moto is sponsoring a Sled event now....never have in the past from my understanding. Or maybe, Cat is still on the table for possible future buyer to consider..... Regardless, would be great to see it be bought as many has said and the tradition continues....for the sake of all who bought or own Cats, sooner vs. later would be great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signfan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I'm no CAT guy, but agree 100%. The sport needs them. Competition drives innovation and keeps everyone honest. If cf moto got in and drove prices down some that wouldn't be a bad thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggz Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, stoney said: Lets try this again, and hopefully an important sled related topic stays in the Sled section of this forum where it belongs..... So it appears a Cat dealer has just become a CF Moto dealer....might be a coincidence, who knows. CF Moto is sponsoring a Sled event now....never have in the past from my understanding. Or maybe, Cat is still on the table for possible future buyer to consider..... Regardless, would be great to see it be bought as many has said and the tradition continues....for the sake of all who bought or own Cats, sooner vs. later would be great! This is promising! I'm sure Textron would like to sell rather than just shut down. The new sled design (Intellectual property) will most certainly have value. Then there's materials, tooling, etc etc. One question - has Yamaha quit building the 4 strokes for sleds? If not, it would be pretty easy for another company to come in and start producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyr Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 39 minutes ago, Puggz said: This is promising! I'm sure Textron would like to sell rather than just shut down. The new sled design (Intellectual property) will most certainly have value. Then there's materials, tooling, etc etc. One question - has Yamaha quit building the 4 strokes for sleds? If not, it would be pretty easy for another company to come in and start producing. CF Moto makes a lot of sense to buy Cat for a couple of reasons. 1. Their US Head Office is already in MN. 2. They need the production facilities in TRF more than they need "Arctic Cat". I could see CF buying Cat, killing the Cat ATV name altogether and using the plant to build CF Moto units in the USA to get around any potential Trump tariffs and to just gain some credibility as a NA built unit (not Chinese). The only Cat product that has any value is the sled division. The rest of it could go away and no one would care. As far as Yamaha is concerned, the deal to supply 998s is done. There would not have been a 2026 Thundercat with a 998 Yamaha in it. Thats not to say it would not have a Weber 1100 triple that was built in St Cloud. 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 43 minutes ago, Puggz said: This is promising! I'm sure Textron would like to sell rather than just shut down. The new sled design (Intellectual property) will most certainly have value. Then there's materials, tooling, etc etc. One question - has Yamaha quit building the 4 strokes for sleds? If not, it would be pretty easy for another company to come in and start producing. Not 100% sure, but I thought it was either 2025 or 2026 MY they stopped making engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I'm a diehard Polaris guy that happens to be riding a Cat - but they need to stay for the sake of snowmobiling. We don't need a new brand/Tesla type of market entry. We need the legends to stay in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 You scared me with that title Stoney. I thought you scooped up a cheap 858 and worth looking for the fixes…..😁 Id love to see Arctic Cat stay in the market. I’ve talked to a couple Catalist riders and they say the sleds are a winner. Feels super light and nimble. Unfortunately, with Textron announcing the closure. Even with a buy out, it will be a tough road to bring back consumer confidence. Somebody smarter than me can probably figure that out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Blackstar said: You scared me with that title Stoney. I thought you scooped up a cheap 858 and worth looking for the fixes…..😁 Id love to see Arctic Cat stay in the market. I’ve talked to a couple Catalist riders and they say the sleds are a winner. Feels super light and nimble. Unfortunately, with Textron announcing the closure. Even with a buy out, it will be a tough road to bring back consumer confidence. Somebody smarter than me can probably figure that out. Lol, nope…I’m still very much liking my doo, especially being a 4 stroke. adding a few new things this year to it as well. I am hopeful that Cat sticks around, but we’ll see what the future holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95rxl650 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I had an early model Jag Z1 with the big twin 4stroke. Sounded like a tractor and rode like a Caddy but it never let me down. Also had a ZR7000 Yammycat. Ran like a champ but wore me out. Both were gas and ride sleds. Reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrtkat Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 As a arctic cat owner since I was in my teens wow over 40 years + the only other brand I owned was a polaris . I have a brand new catalyst from last year that I never had a chance to ride. I am hoping cat finds a buyer and keeps the tradition moving forward. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtoSkidoo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 18 hours ago, Spiderman said: I'm a diehard Polaris guy that happens to be riding a Cat - but they need to stay for the sake of snowmobiling. We don't need a new brand/Tesla type of market entry. We need the legends to stay in it. agreed. I hope that a North American Company buys it though. The sport needs more than two manufacturers and Im betting neither are making a dime right now 11 hours ago, stoney said: Lol, nope…I’m still very much liking my doo, especially being a 4 stroke. adding a few new things this year to it as well. I am hopeful that Cat sticks around, but we’ll see what the future holds. Stop adding more power................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snowowl Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 https://www.supertraxmag.com/features/breaking-news-what-we-know-about-arctic-cat/ Let's see if the article stays up. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 Argo.....hmm, who would have thunk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 A lot of sense in that article 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater466 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Hopefully Argo which is doing well, increasing their market share, already employs a bunch of ex key Arctic Cat people and is based in Minnesota as well would be ideal to acquire them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyr Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 My only concern about Argo is if they are a large enough financially company to be able to buy it and operate it? Cat is a lot bigger company sales # wise than Argo is. If they do buy it, I wouldnt be surprised to see it as some type of partnership between a group of companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, smokeater466 said: Hopefully Argo which is doing well, increasing their market share, already employs a bunch of ex key Arctic Cat people and is based in Minnesota as well would be ideal to acquire them. Argo has a USA facility in TRF, Minnesota but I'm not sure they are based there. They started in Kitchener, Ont. then moved to New Hamburg, Ontario where they have 2 plants. On their website under locations the first one shown is the Canadian one in New Hamburg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyr Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I have a buddy who is very well connected within Arctic Cat and he just texted me and said that a deal in principle is done for a a Cat sale. Its all in lawyers hands now. Announcement will be made in the next few weeks. He said he cant tell me (due to NDAs) who it is but its safe to say that its either Argo or CF. He said they are trying their hardest to salvage MY26 sled production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtoSkidoo Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, scottyr said: I have a buddy who is very well connected within Arctic Cat and he just texted me and said that a deal in principle is done for a a Cat sale. Its all in lawyers hands now. Announcement will be made in the next few weeks. He said he cant tell me (due to NDAs) who it is but its safe to say that its either Argo or CF. He said they are trying their hardest to salvage MY26 sled production. cf is my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic JC Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Im guessing Argo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Arctic JC said: Im guessing Argo Me too, way too many connections and reasons for it not to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMSOMAIR Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Let them die in peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyr Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 My gut tells me its Argo with a few investor/partners. CF Moto just committed a pile of money into the KTM bail out. I am not sure they are that cash flush to save both companies at this time? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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