Sled prices falling large ?

[scottyr]

I called a contractor buddy about re-doing my downstairs bathroom.     I asked him 18 months ago and he said it would be 6 months min before he could start it.     

 

He told me he could start the Tuesday after the Long Weekend if I wanted to go ahead with the job now.  

 

[Strong Farmer]

15 minutes ago, scottyr said:

I called a contractor buddy about re-doing my downstairs bathroom.     I asked him 18 months ago and he said it would be 6 months min before he could start it.     

 

He told me he could start the Tuesday after the Long Weekend if I wanted to go ahead with the job now.  

 

🤷🏽‍♂️. This roofer is top knotch. Usually takes about 4 months to get anyone to do anything including small repair.  Doing my basement now too at my own place. Haven't had any trouble getting trades people when I need them. Hold up is materials now floor suppose to be here tomorrow 🤷🏽‍♂️. 

[RAMSOMAIR]

Many Parry Sound contractors are years out. All sooooooo busy. Yeah busy polishing their boats lol. Its so sad

[Strong Farmer]

4 hours ago, RAMSOMAIR said:

Many Parry Sound contractors are years out. All sooooooo busy. Yeah busy polishing their boats lol. Its so sad

Can't comment on your area. Around here you have some choices with trades people and materials. I have a few people I go too and they know they loose job if they wait too long, so they usually fir me in asap 😎. 
They know I pay fast too so that helps when other ones aren't paying 😎

[signfan]

Smart to get your projects in now.  Once the feds announce the interest rate drop construction will take off again.  I'd say this is the calm before the storm.  For major infrastructure in the GTA we are booking jobs 2 - 3 years out still as they know finding the trades will be an issue again.

[Strong Farmer]

6 hours ago, signfan said:

Smart to get your projects in now.  Once the feds announce the interest rate drop construction will take off again.  I'd say this is the calm before the storm.  For major infrastructure in the GTA we are booking jobs 2 - 3 years out still as they know finding the trades will be an issue again.

Housing boom coming for sure especially for more affordable housing. They are putting town homes up in Kitchener and they are sold out before shovel even goes in ground. Selling town homes for 700 k ish. If you told me 15 years ago these things would be selling for 700 k I would have bought 10 units. Only low 200's then high 180's 😳

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, Strong Farmer said:

Housing boom coming for sure especially for more affordable housing. They are putting town homes up in Kitchener and they are sold out before shovel even goes in ground. Selling town homes for 700 k ish. If you told me 15 years ago these things would be selling for 700 k I would have bought 10 units. Only low 200's then high 180's 😳

 

Those are starter homes.  If there isn't a serious correction our kids will never get into the market and will be forever renters.

Sure I'd like to make coin as well but not at the cost of our future generations.

 

[Spiderman]

3 hours ago, Strong Farmer said:

Housing boom coming for sure especially for more affordable housing. They are putting town homes up in Kitchener and they are sold out before shovel even goes in ground. Selling town homes for 700 k ish. If you told me 15 years ago these things would be selling for 700 k I would have bought 10 units. Only low 200's then high 180's 😳

 

But all these people buying town homes for 700 k - with 650k mortgages at 7% have savings................:)

 

 

[Spiderman]

1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

 

Those are starter homes.  If there isn't a serious correction our kids will never get into the market and will be forever renters.

Sure I'd like to make coin as well but not at the cost of our future generations.

 

but, can't they just dive into their 10's of thousands of dollars in savings?

 

anyone under 30 - not living at home - and without inheritance is living cheque to cheque - the math doesn't lie

[stoney]

7 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

 

Those are starter homes.  If there isn't a serious correction our kids will never get into the market and will be forever renters.

Sure I'd like to make coin as well but not at the cost of our future generations.

 

That is part of the problem, too many are now in the game to make money with no or little thought to the ripple effects that greatly affects the generation beneath them - the me, me society we have become.....

Sadly, I really do not see how there is going to be that drastic a correction at this point to fix things.

[stoney]

5 hours ago, Spiderman said:

 

But all these people buying town homes for 700 k - with 650k mortgages at 7% have savings................:)

 

 

Yes, the 50K savings used as the down payment......

[stoney]

5 hours ago, Spiderman said:

but, can't they just dive into their 10's of thousands of dollars in savings?

 

anyone under 30 - not living at home - and without inheritance is living cheque to cheque - the math doesn't lie

 

I think some of the "kids" you speak of are making some pretty good coin with the jobs out there, if they were smart and willing to work......I see my nephews and their friends, some are doing okay. 

Not to suggest they are not living a fine line, but I think we all did until we were in what our 40's, where we started to see some "financial freedoms".....but the youger kids of today are for sure living a finer line with everything costing so much & getting some help from ma and pa.

[95rxl650]

I'm a rock star.

Didnt get paid when I was young and too old to get paid now. lol

Joking aside, I've turned down 30k in work this spring just because it'll hurt too much. 

I also agreed to do a couple I didnt want to do just because the folks had estimates designed to empty theyre retirement savings and I'll be happy to help them out for 1/4 of previous estimates. 

People are throwing out crazy estimates to folks that have no where to turn and living on a budget. It's sad. 

[Strong Farmer]

1 hour ago, 95rxl650 said:

I'm a rock star.

Didnt get paid when I was young and too old to get paid now. lol

Joking aside, I've turned down 30k in work this spring just because it'll hurt too much. 

I also agreed to do a couple I didnt want to do just because the folks had estimates designed to empty theyre retirement savings and I'll be happy to help them out for 1/4 of previous estimates. 

People are throwing out crazy estimates to folks that have no where to turn and living on a budget. It's sad. 

That's what happens when contractors are busy. They throw out crazy estimates. Up to people to negotiate abit or find another contractor or wait. I had that happen a few times too. I just wait until they need work and amazing how much price comes down 😎. 

[Blackstar]

13 hours ago, stoney said:

 

I think some of the "kids" you speak of are making some pretty good coin with the jobs out there, if they were smart and willing to work......I see my nephews and their friends, some are doing okay. 

Not to suggest they are not living a fine line, but I think we all did until we were in what our 40's, where we started to see some "financial freedoms".....but the youger kids of today are for sure living a finer line with everything costing so much & getting some help from ma and pa.

 

I agree. I've been hearing "our kids won't be able to afford houses" since the 80's. Sure they will. Just like we did. Borrow the down payment from the parents, get in the market and focus on the long term.

 

My wife and I didn't have any money in savings when we bought our first house. Rent was taking all our income. So that's why we bought.

[Spiderman]

On 5/11/2024 at 6:22 AM, Blackstar said:

 

I agree. I've been hearing "our kids won't be able to afford houses" since the 80's. Sure they will. Just like we did. Borrow the down payment from the parents, get in the market and focus on the long term.

 

My wife and I didn't have any money in savings when we bought our first house. Rent was taking all our income. So that's why we bought.

 

The 80's, 90''s, and early 2000's and now are not even close to an apples to apples comparison - so it sounds good, but it's not reality for what is currently in place.

 

 

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, Spiderman said:

 

The 80's, 90''s, and early 2000's and now are not even close to an apples to apples comparison - so it sounds good, but it's not reality for what is currently in place.

 

 

 

Yup not even close.

 

No matter what the environment there will always be people struggling/renters.  Today, that number sadly is growing.

But the 80's, 90's one could easily save for a down payment on a detached home.

In late 80's while both living at home, myself and my brother saved enough for a 25% total down payment on a detached home in Brampton in one year.  That was enough for the rent to carry the mortgage.  In fact it was so easy, we did for three consecutive years and had 3 fully detached rental homes with 25% down on each.  We started this one year after graduation.

If I had decided to not go to school and went into the trades, we would have likely had close to 10.

 

There is no formula for that now.  

 

To think it's still the same today and let our kids struggle like we did is laughable.

[95rxl650]

So when are these sled prices coming down. I paid just over $8000 tax in for a 2 year old Blizzard in 2019, just before covid. They still want that now. 

[Spiderman]

14 hours ago, 95rxl650 said:

So when are these sled prices coming down. I paid just over $8000 tax in for a 2 year old Blizzard in 2019, just before covid. They still want that now. 

Still want……

 

should answer your question.

[04nightfire]

20 hours ago, 95rxl650 said:

So when are these sled prices coming down. I paid just over $8000 tax in for a 2 year old Blizzard in 2019, just before covid. They still want that now. 

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[Blackstar]

Bit early for sacrifice sales. You'll probably have to go around low balling people at this time of year.

Don't forget that the price on new has gone up a ton in the last 4 years so that brings up the used sled prices too. But used prices have definitely fallen from where they were 3 years ago.

 

I actually see some reasonable prices. Not many cheap sleds. Still see plenty of dreamers. I see 2 Mach Z's on Marketplace at over $20k with high miles. 🥴

 

 

[Strong Farmer]

31 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Bit early for sacrifice sales. You'll probably have to go around low balling people at this time of year.

Don't forget that the price on new has gone up a ton in the last 4 years so that brings up the used sled prices too. But used prices have definitely fallen from where they were 3 years ago.

 

I actually see some reasonable prices. Not many cheap sleds. Still see plenty of dreamers. I see 2 Mach Z's on Marketplace at over $20k with high miles. 🥴

 

 

Prices are all over the place. Best deal I seen is a 2024 vr1 with 7s, ice ripper track warranty until December 2026 and it's a 650 they take 16,000 pls hst. Sled has 640 ish km's being sold by a dealer. 
People with 2022 vr1's still want 15 k and they won't go down. They aren't selling either.

[Baylaker]

Skidoo has $2k off 24’s right now. Some dealers are adding an extra $500-$1k off on top of that. 

[RAMSOMAIR]

I was able to sell my 2022 Rave a couple of weeks ago for $14500. Thought that was good.

 

[Spiderman]

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