Candubrain Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I've taken the Rouski wheels off my TS skis and won't be putting anything like them back on. I have a concrete driveway and want something that I can slip under the skis so the carbides don't damage the driveway. This will be for those occasions I'm not trailering and want to ride through town to get to the trail. Found negatives on just about everything out there. For example, the Extreme Max dollies that secure with two cables, you sometimes need pliers to unhook the cable as they get wedged in and won't come out of their locked position. Maxx Super Savers, flex and bend easily. Some do not fit with the TS Ski as the spindles are much bigger than a standard spindle. Thoughts and suggestions ? thanks brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooboy Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 how about something like this? https://www.denniskirk.com/skinz/ski-guards-sg100-bk.p106040.prd/106040.sku or this is what we use on our asphalt, they have rubber wheels instead of plastic and roll nicely... a lot better than the cheap plastic wheeled caddies. aluminum version: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0225.htm steel version: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0232.htm they are not cheap but, they roll so nice, even on rough or poor surfaces, sans dirt, gravel. the rubber wheels are the key here. you could buy the cheap economy version, then buy the replacement rubber wheels: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0246.htm economy caddy: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.2000.htm Ski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Candubrain said: I've taken the Rouski wheels off my TS skis and won't be putting anything like them back on. I have a concrete driveway and want something that I can slip under the skis so the carbides don't damage the driveway. This will be for those occasions I'm not trailering and want to ride through town to get to the trail. Found negatives on just about everything out there. For example, the Extreme Max dollies that secure with two cables, you sometimes need pliers to unhook the cable as they get wedged in and won't come out of their locked position. Maxx Super Savers, flex and bend easily. Some do not fit with the TS Ski as the spindles are much bigger than a standard spindle. Thoughts and suggestions ? thanks brian https://www.royaldistributing.com/sno-stuff-universal-ski-boots-pair-503-505.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoNN3Nz5ibC0j_4hipM6EmInoDvIQ3UVt-wJ83O-goMpcJ-KUFEAW-RoCILsQAvD_BwE that’s what I use and can drive sled every where. Dollies are in corner collecting dust now. I drive right into boots outside put a nylon pin there the ski loop. Drive right in Garage and back right out. No more turning sled around or pushing it. Water ruins dollies in a hurry too and they always fell off too. Great for loading sled into a truck or trailer bed too. No more catching or carbide damage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamatario Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Strong Farmer said: https://www.royaldistributing.com/sno-stuff-universal-ski-boots-pair-503-505.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoNN3Nz5ibC0j_4hipM6EmInoDvIQ3UVt-wJ83O-goMpcJ-KUFEAW-RoCILsQAvD_BwE that’s what I use and can drive sled every where. Dollies are in corner collecting dust now. I drive right into boots outside put a nylon pin there the ski loop. Drive right in Garage and back right out. No more turning sled around or pushing it. Water ruins dollies in a hurry too and they always fell off too. Great for loading sled into a truck or trailer bed too. No more catching or carbide damage. Do you have a picture of them on with pin through the ski loop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yamatario said: Do you have a picture of them on with pin through the ski loop? I can get one. On sled now. Only issue with them if you put two sleds side by side into a trailer won’t be enough clearance to do that with boots on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I use these for running on the drive way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 hours ago, volunteer2 said: I use these for running on the drive way How do they attach to the ski Nick? Also, where can you buy them? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candubrain Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 hours ago, volunteer2 said: I use these for running on the drive way You don't find they flex and bend too easily? That is what I've read on a oouple reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candubrain Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 hours ago, skidooboy said: how about something like this? https://www.denniskirk.com/skinz/ski-guards-sg100-bk.p106040.prd/106040.sku or this is what we use on our asphalt, they have rubber wheels instead of plastic and roll nicely... a lot better than the cheap plastic wheeled caddies. aluminum version: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0225.htm steel version: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0232.htm they are not cheap but, they roll so nice, even on rough or poor surfaces, sans dirt, gravel. the rubber wheels are the key here. you could buy the cheap economy version, then buy the replacement rubber wheels: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.0246.htm economy caddy: https://www.extrememax.com/product-p/5800.2000.htm Ski thanks for the suggestions, the skinz are a great idea, but there would be no ability to turn with them on. I've hadn't seen the V shaped dolly....thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candubrain Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: https://www.royaldistributing.com/sno-stuff-universal-ski-boots-pair-503-505.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoNN3Nz5ibC0j_4hipM6EmInoDvIQ3UVt-wJ83O-goMpcJ-KUFEAW-RoCILsQAvD_BwE that’s what I use and can drive sled every where. Dollies are in corner collecting dust now. I drive right into boots outside put a nylon pin there the ski loop. Drive right in Garage and back right out. No more turning sled around or pushing it. Water ruins dollies in a hurry too and they always fell off too. Great for loading sled into a truck or trailer bed too. No more catching or carbide damage. Only problem I see with them is the inability to turn. Great idea though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooboy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, Candubrain said: thanks for the suggestions, the skinz are a great idea, but there would be no ability to turn with them on. I've hadn't seen the V shaped dolly....thanks if you are just going in and out of the driveway, to the snow, why the need to turn? line em up on the inside, and drive out, line em up on the outside, and drive in. in reality the v dollies, work pretty well, you can roll, turn, spin the sled around pretty easy. hardest part is getting the rear dolly under the track, by yourself. Ski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Candubrain said: Only problem I see with them is the inability to turn. Great idea though Sled slides pretty easy with boots on, front end wise. Rolls real nice out of trailer without catching, both ways too. If you have a studed Track you are better off with wheels though as far as garage floor goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: How do they attach to the ski Nick? Also, where can you buy them? Thanks in advance. You grab the ski loop and lift the ski then slip the wheels with the open end under the ski at the ski leg there is a hook at the top ( pic doesn't show it ) and hook the ski loop I know they have them at Royal and Canadian Tire but these came from our buddy at KW Surplus Prob need to order from him they work really good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Candubrain said: You don't find they flex and bend too easily? That is what I've read on a oouple reviews They are steel they don't flex the skis may have a bit of tension since they attach to the loop I pull them off after use I have home made wooden dollies on casters then the sled sits on in the garage I can move the sleds on the dollys 360 degrees real easy then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Rhe venture we bought used for the wife has the wheels, they work great and also come in handy if you are stuck running a section of dry road to get to fuel etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC+YA Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 23 hours ago, Candubrain said: You don't find they flex and bend too easily? That is what I've read on a couple reviews I have 3 sets of these as I am done lifting sleds to put any kind of rollers/wheels under them. I think that there are several versions and like you said, they are not all created equal. My "Ski Saver" version which is much better designed and built from heavier stock came from Finland and cost twice as much. The other 2 sets of the cheap copies I got were "China specials" and had to be tweaked just a bit as I assembled them. They would have worked, but I did not like the dimensional differences so I used my vise and a hammer to adjust a few things. The hardware was also China made "crap" and I replaced a few bolts and nuts after trying to use my small impact driver to tighten and stripped them out. I went back to a set of hand tools and the rest did not fail. The leverage allows them to be slid under the ski and then by pushing down the ski is raised and the hook end is pushed into the ski handle. They work well to drive and steer on fairly flat surfaces. They work fine on my dry lawn and great on hard surfaces. I do not try to drive into my trailer or up sharp steps over an inch or two. I have found that the wheel axles should be put in line with the ski pivot when sliding them under. Too far and the skis run low in the front and not far enough and they want to drag in the back. If you drive over something too big they can slide along the ski and cause the tipping up or down of it depending if you are backing up or going forward when it catches and slides. They are by far the best thing I have found to save my back and they do a great job in most hard terrain. NOTHING is better for quickly and easily rolling around from garage to trailer or even driving down my road a few hundred meters when it is dry. Small rocks or bumps don't bother them. 10 MPH Max is stamped on them. I have 3 sets now, but wish I could still get the original "SKI Saver" brand. The China copies work, but the points that lift the ski are not as aggressive and tend to slip a bit easier. Still, they get my vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Where is kris maybe he could make some custom sets for us all 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, AC+YA said: I have 3 sets of these as I am done lifting sleds to put any kind of rollers/wheels under them. I think that there are several versions and like you said, they are not all created equal. My "Ski Saver" version which is much better designed and built from heavier stock came from Finland and cost twice as much. The other 2 sets of the cheap copies I got were "China specials" and had to be tweaked just a bit as I assembled them. They would have worked, but I did not like the dimensional differences so I used my vise and a hammer to adjust a few things. The hardware was also China made "crap" and I replaced a few bolts and nuts after trying to use my small impact driver to tighten and stripped them out. I went back to a set of hand tools and the rest did not fail. The leverage allows them to be slid under the ski and then by pushing down the ski is raised and the hook end is pushed into the ski handle. They work well to drive and steer on fairly flat surfaces. They work fine on my dry lawn and great on hard surfaces. I do not try to drive into my trailer or up sharp steps over an inch or two. I have found that the wheel axles should be put in line with the ski pivot when sliding them under. Too far and the skis run low in the front and not far enough and they want to drag in the back. If you drive over something too big they can slide along the ski and cause the tipping up or down of it depending if you are backing up or going forward when it catches and slides. They are by far the best thing I have found to save my back and they do a great job in most hard terrain. NOTHING is better for quickly and easily rolling around from garage to trailer or even driving down my road a few hundred meters when it is dry. Small rocks or bumps don't bother them. 10 MPH Max is stamped on them. I have 3 sets now, but wish I could still get the original "SKI Saver" brand. The China copies work, but the points that lift the ski are not as aggressive and tend to slip a bit easier. Still, they get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candubrain Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 saw these ones made in Saskatchewan with air filled wheels. Expensive, but Cdn made and appear to be good quality, meaning not flimsy https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1589255292 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candubrain Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just contacted them. Apparently they won’t work on the TS ski because of the dual keel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I use simple dollies for under the skiis and one under the track. We move them around on concrete all the time. Lightly lift the skii's up - slide underneath - velcro straps down - lift track, slide under - roll around where ever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC+YA Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Spiderman said: I use simple dollies for under the skiis and one under the track. We move them around on concrete all the time. Lightly lift the skii's up - slide underneath - velcro straps down - lift track, slide under - roll around where ever you want. The "lightly lift skis up" doesn't work for me anymore. It's been years since my arm and shoulder had to be fixed and I prefer using the lever action to lift my sleds. I'm 66 now and feel this will work for me well into my 70's. Plus it can be driven and reversed using the machine's own power. I have all the dollies from swivels to steerable. Sometimes I put the swivels under my track and just push and steer it into a tight spot for storage. I just don't like lifting the skis by myself anymore even though I still can do it. This is much faster and easier. It does cost more though. Click image to open expanded view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunz Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 7:32 PM, volunteer2 said: I use these for running on the drive way I bought these from Royal a couple of years ago and they were garbage, mine were the orange ones, had them replaced and they still bent when under load. Went back to the old style that goes under the skiis with wheels and the one under the track, If I was looking at them again would likely buy the ones made by Caliber, they seem to be higher quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Nunz said: I bought these from Royal a couple of years ago and they were garbage, mine were the orange ones, had them replaced and they still bent when under load. Went back to the old style that goes under the skiis with wheels and the one under the track, If I was looking at them again would likely buy the ones made by Caliber, they seem to be higher quality. I saw these wheels at my buddy's place they seemed pretty strong my other buddy had two sets one from Royal and one from Canadian Tire I did a quick check on pricing I paid 1/3 of what the others are I cant believe the ones I have will bend but I don't go far with them and only on the smooth driveway and garage https://www.royaldistributing.com/maxx-surface-saver-ski-dolly.html https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-snowmobile-drive-on-dollies-0260548p.html?rrec=true#spc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Thankfully, still in good (enough) physical shape to use the old school ones......one under each ski and made up a piece of plywood with wheels for the track. For the skis you do not really have to lift up so much as pull up on the ski loop so it tilts the ski & slide dolly under each ski, one at a time. Driveway is still gravel, so no worries with that.....used primarily in the garage for moving around or unloading from the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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