Gadgetman Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 While I'm sorting out if I have to go to a new trailer or not, anyone running the Pro Starr Hybrid Rear Ramp 12' trailer; impressions, handling, build quality? Also, any comments on ACTION trailers, good or bad? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomo Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Another alternative for you to consider - comes with standard wheels, spare, front door, track matts all included. Looks like leaf springs though. https://www.georgianbaytrailers.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=7308574&p=1&s=(Sort By)&d=D&fr=xAllInventory Parry Sound area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, slomo said: Another alternative for you to consider - comes with standard wheels, spare, front door, track matts all included. Looks like leaf springs though. https://www.georgianbaytrailers.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=7308574&p=1&s=(Sort By)&d=D&fr=xAllInventory Parry Sound area. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 me and 2 buddies have the 12 ft hybrid we love them I say they are an entry level trailer but a few bucks I was going to suggest that you may want to upgrade but didnt wanna tick you off lol your trailer has value and to upgrade may be easier than you think Our trailers tow real nice load and unload great A couple years ago we had a thread about the trailers and one thing was the Bullet inlines are real nice too and would get you better mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidooboy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 the prostarr hybrid with the rear ramp, is on my short list of trailers I would buy. I need one for the house in Dub but, because of travel restrictions, and not having sleds here in the states now, I have not been actively searching, or wanting to order one. personally I am looking at the 13' for the extra room to kick the tails out, and be able to haul the fishing sleigh. these trailers are built in michigan, and seem to be a decent build package. Ski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, slomo said: Another alternative for you to consider - comes with standard wheels, spare, front door, track matts all included. Looks like leaf springs though. https://www.georgianbaytrailers.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=7308574&p=1&s=(Sort By)&d=D&fr=xAllInventory Parry Sound area. Bought one of these two years ago, happy with it so far. First thing I did when arriving home was to soak axle, springs and attaching bracket area with Rust Check 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, skidooboy said: the prostarr hybrid with the rear ramp, is on my short list of trailers I would buy. I need one for the house in Dub but, because of travel restrictions, and not having sleds here in the states now, I have not been actively searching, or wanting to order one. personally I am looking at the 13' for the extra room to kick the tails out, and be able to haul the fishing sleigh. these trailers are built in michigan, and seem to be a decent build package. Ski The axels are Kennedy from what I saw. Are they made in America ? The other torsion is the Dexter I have a couple United trailers with the Dexter's one is an 06 and no issues. Just wondering about the Kenedy unit and quality. I know a bit late now to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomo Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 6 hours ago, skidooboy said: the prostarr hybrid with the rear ramp, is on my short list of trailers I would buy. I need one for the house in Dub but, because of travel restrictions, and not having sleds here in the states now, I have not been actively searching, or wanting to order one. personally I am looking at the 13' for the extra room to kick the tails out, and be able to haul the fishing sleigh. these trailers are built in michigan, and seem to be a decent build package. Ski I scrubbed the Made in Michigan decal off the sides as I thought that the poor spelling would reflect badly on the state's education system.... 2 hours ago, volunteer2 said: The axels are Kennedy from what I saw. Are they made in America ? The other torsion is the Dexter I have a couple United trailers with the Dexter's one is an 06 and no issues. Just wondering about the Kenedy unit and quality. I know a bit late now to ask The axle on mine is from Lippert. U.S. made and parts available. I am talking about the inline hybrid 7'X 16' , so there is no confusion. https://actiontrailers.ca/shop/build-a-trailer/snowmobile-motorcycle/inline-hybrid/sled-shed-aluminum-pro-starr-bullet-series-rear-ramp-door-7-wide-inline-hybrid-snowmobile/ The Prostarr Bullit hybrid advertised on Action Trailer website does not have a front door. However you can get on as an option AND if you want six inches of extra interior height, you can get that as an option as well. Blake and I are rather compact (but husky) so the height is bearable for the sledding season - those taller folks might want to increase the height. The Bullitt tows very well and I like the seven foot width as opposed to the eight foot width. Helps on the highway and backing into places. The extra room for gear in addition to two machines comes in handy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer2 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, slomo said: I scrubbed the Made in Michigan decal off the sides as I thought that the poor spelling would reflect badly on the state's education system.... The axle on mine is from Lippert. U.S. made and parts available. I am talking about the inline hybrid 7'X 16' , so there is no confusion. https://actiontrailers.ca/shop/build-a-trailer/snowmobile-motorcycle/inline-hybrid/sled-shed-aluminum-pro-starr-bullet-series-rear-ramp-door-7-wide-inline-hybrid-snowmobile/ The Prostarr Bullit hybrid advertised on Action Trailer website does not have a front door. However you can get on as an option AND if you want six inches of extra interior height, you can get that as an option as well. Blake and I are rather compact (but husky) so the height is bearable for the sledding season - those taller folks might want to increase the height. The Bullitt tows very well and I like the seven foot width as opposed to the eight foot width. Helps on the highway and backing into places. The extra room for gear in addition to two machines comes in handy. OMG Slomo Thanks for the info Not sure how I got Kennedy axles Its Lippert and I knew that but forgot The Lipperts lived beside the Kennedys in our little town when we growing up so I got a little confused LOL hoping the Lippert axels are as good as the Dexter I have and had I did have my older sled trailer homemade enclosed real heavy had a Dexter axle no problems for 20 plus yrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 No new trailer required (phew!!!). REN X 137 fits my model of Triton 10ft Clam shell. Stopped at the dealer today and they loaded up a sled. No room to spare, but fits. Posting pics in the other post. Thanks for the input on trailer options, but my Triton just keeps on working. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Gadgetman said: No new trailer required (phew!!!). REN X 137 fits my model of Triton 10ft Clam shell. Stopped at the dealer today and they loaded up a sled. No room to spare, but fits. Posting pics in the other post. Thanks for the input on trailer options, but my Triton just keeps on working. Dammit Gadgetman - this is snowmobiling! This thriftiness you are displaying is way out of character and extremely contrary to the stereotype! (glad your sled fits in your old trailer) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, slomo said: Dammit Gadgetman - this is snowmobiling! This thriftiness you are displaying is way out of character and extremely contrary to the stereotype! (glad your sled fits in your old trailer) I know, but you see it is like this; I'm trying to retire in the next year or 3, (I'm hoping 2 years at most, as I really don't want to spend some of a summer in Kuwait again (I don't do 48/50c temps well at all) and she laid out 2 very simple conditions for me to retire: 1. Stop spending so much on toys (I have another sport which is also expensive), or 2. drop dead. So, the "Harley wanna-be" was just traded in on the REN X. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vooodooo Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just a tip for the wider trailers that you can't see behind. I have a Triton, 12 foot clamshell and even with the pull out truck mirrors it sucks. I wanted to tow it with my full size vans and there was no real good option for mirrors. Bought and installed this on the back of the trailer, powered by the running lights. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07H2GMM48/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1000 miles on multiple vehicles, works very well. Likely get me past the MTO rule that you have to be able to see behind you, but that has yet to be confirmed lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfish Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, vooodooo said: Just a tip for the wider trailers that you can't see behind. I have a Triton, 12 foot clamshell and even with the pull out truck mirrors it sucks. I wanted to tow it with my full size vans and there was no real good option for mirrors. Bought and installed this on the back of the trailer, powered by the running lights. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07H2GMM48/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1000 miles on multiple vehicles, works very well. Likely get me past the MTO rule that you have to be able to see behind you, but that has yet to be confirmed lol. I have looked into those in the past. The only issue I had was road spray covering the lens so what is behind you is no longer visible on the screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, vooodooo said: Just a tip for the wider trailers that you can't see behind. I have a Triton, 12 foot clamshell and even with the pull out truck mirrors it sucks. I wanted to tow it with my full size vans and there was no real good option for mirrors. Bought and installed this on the back of the trailer, powered by the running lights. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07H2GMM48/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1000 miles on multiple vehicles, works very well. Likely get me past the MTO rule that you have to be able to see behind you, but that has yet to be confirmed lol. As I tow with a Highlander, and yes, even with strap on extension mirrors, it is hard to see behind the trailer, I too installed a wireless backup camera, wired to running lights. Only issue is that it does seem to lose the signal on occasion. I'll keep this model in mind if mine breaks. My plate is mounted high on the rear of the shell, does pick up spray, but not as quickly. Thanks Edited April 26, 2021 by Gadgetman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 hours ago, vooodooo said: Just a tip for the wider trailers that you can't see behind. I have a Triton, 12 foot clamshell and even with the pull out truck mirrors it sucks. I wanted to tow it with my full size vans and there was no real good option for mirrors. Bought and installed this on the back of the trailer, powered by the running lights. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07H2GMM48/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1000 miles on multiple vehicles, works very well. Likely get me past the MTO rule that you have to be able to see behind you, but that has yet to be confirmed lol. Transports can’t see behind them either. Down sides yes but not behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Sled Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 17 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: Transports can’t see behind them either. Down sides yes but not behind. I've never heard of a requirement to be able to see behind you. Like you said down the sides. I can't see behind the sled trailer, the boat, the RV or the horse trailer. Nobody ever could until those cameras became available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vooodooo Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 18 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: Transports can’t see behind them either. Down sides yes but not behind. True. I drive a truck in my spare/spare time. I can't remember the actual rule but there is a distance behind the trailer you are "supposed to" be able to see. It's mostly about emergency vehicles, so you can see them from a distance. My camera easily passes this test, from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 IS THERE ANY LEGAL EXEMPTION TO NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE OUT OF MY REAR WINDOW? Yes. Fortunately it is also an exemption that applies to the vast majority of vehicles on Ontario’s roadways. This is certainly good news for Ontarians that enjoy packing their vehicle’s interior to the roof for camping or other events. This exemption falls under Highway Traffic Act section74(2) as follows: Application of clause. (1) (b) (2) Clause (1) (b) does not apply to a motor vehicle that is equipped with a mirror or mirrors securely attached to the motor vehicle and placed in such a position and maintained in such a condition as to afford the driver, otherwise than through the rear window, a clearly-reflected view of the roadway in the rear or of any vehicle approaching from the rear. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 74 (2). The exemption for not being able to see through your rear window requires that: A mirror or mirrors be attached to your vehicle That those mirrors be placed and maintained to reflect the roadway behind you That the reflection of the mirror(s) permit you to see the road and any vehicles behind you If your rear window is blocked and you cannot properly see the road or vehicles behind you in your mirrors, you’re at risk for being charged by the police under this section of the Highway Traffic Act. The last bullets, can be used by the Police to charge you. Yes, Tractor trailers can't see directly behind, but they can see at a specific distance behind them. So, in theory, towing a sled trailer, you need to be able to see a vehicle behind you on the road. So, I use a camera, I will see flashing lights, and know to pull over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 You need to be able to clearly have vision down the sides of your rig past the back corners of your trailer. And more important If the cop can see you in your mirror from back corner of your trailer you should be good. They can’t see you. You can’t see them. Then you could get a ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, Sksman said: You need to be able to clearly have vision down the sides of your rig past the back corners of your trailer. And more important If the cop can see you in your mirror from back corner of your trailer you should be good. They can’t see you. You can’t see them. Then you could get a ticket. Just wondering if anyone on the forum has ever gotten a ticket for no or improper mirrors. I haven't heard of a ticket for this in many decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Farmer Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PISTON LAKE CRUISER said: Just wondering if anyone on the forum has ever gotten a ticket for no or improper mirrors. I haven't heard of a ticket for this in many decades. Never got pulled over but was in middle lane on highway 400 and cop came up to side of me in fast lane and started pointing fingers at me. Then we realized he wanted us in slow lane, so moved over and he left us alone. Only happened once. Not sure what that was about since trucks use middle lane all day long too. Edited April 28, 2021 by Strong Farmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Strong Farmer said: Never got pulled over but was in middle lane on highway 400 and cop came up to side of me in fast lane and started pointing fingers at me. Then we realized he wanted us in slow lane, so moved over and he left us alone. Only happened once. Not sure what that was about since trucks use middle lane all day long too. Just because someone does something wrong doesn't mean it's OK however, like your response that has nothing to do with the questionbeing asked. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 56 inch interior height is the only down side. I bought a blast from them which is taller and was less money. So far so good. But the sales guy was less than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 A friend sells trailers and they are already being squeezed by the manufacturers on sled trailer orders for this fall. And delivery dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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