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Steve F6 - thanks for clarifying , I know exactly the spot you are referring to (Fred's Place) .....in fact I rode by "Fred's " Place last Saturday...and surprisingly the trails south of Port Sydney to Baysville had held up really well ....and very few sleds were out ....

Question for Steve F6 - I know the 102/103 trails quite well and especially the area around Purbrook road . Who is Fred? ... is that a nick name for a restaurant or store in Baysville?

which beach are you referring to ? The Beach are on Mary Lake ( Port Sydney) .....

Anybody know if the groomer found on trail 76 ( near 101B ) is still there ? Have the trails in the area had a chance to be groomed ( possibly by another groomer)?

Mr Pink Bunny ....I too had three close calls on the same stretch of trail ( south of Dorset) in the span of 30 minutes on this past saturday! I just don't understand the mentality of some who come around corners either way too fast or not in control (or both). Isn't it obvious when the oncoming lead sled comes around a sharp corner on one ski that he ( or she) is going too fast ? Like others above, I ride tight to the right 90% of time. It scares the hell out of me when that's still not enough and I'm forced to ride one ski off the trail to avoid getting hit! Sometimes I get lucky and the lead sled gets by, but then comes the "rabbits" behind him trying to catch up and in even less control ! I applaud the effort by clubs adopting the "Ride Your Side" awareness sign ....I can only help .... I really hope it does ...stupidity needs to end

Thanks for the update steve F6 - I guess the club updated the ITG sometime yesterday in the afternoon ...either way this is great news for our group . we'll be travelling through that section of trail tomorrow morning en-route to check out the Ice Caves north of Kearney .

Blake - Thanks for the update - I think we'll still make the ice caves our goal/destination tomorrow and simply deal with the road running as best we can .

I see that as of today the "ITG" shows that not only the swampy section of D102B just west of Bayville to be "closed" , but also D103B south of West of Baysville all the way to Healy lake . This is certainly not a good sign. Curious what has caused the expansion of the closed area?

Stoney : Thanks for confirming the logging section on D101B. Would you happen to know the condition of D101B where it uses the road Camp "Billy Bear" is on? If memory serves me correctly it is stretch of trail when you share the road for about 5kms. In the past this section can be challenging when the snow is "thin" . I'm contemplating heading from my my cottage east of Bracebridge to the "Ice Caves " east of sand lake to check them out ....never been there before .

If you hear of this crossing being "fixed" please share on this forum . This is my only way to access trails east of Baysville form my cottage which is south of baysville by 10 kms . Thanks

I agree with the two previous posts , I've used Tem Rose as our staging area for 3 years, works great , reasonable rates , decent food, close to feeder trail and ample storage for truck n trailers.

Yukon / Stoney : Thanks for your ideas on places / directions to explore . If i Had time i'd try all of your recommendations ! These forums are great for just these purposes . Getting advice, insight and recommendations. Stoney: The logging on D101B you're referring to... is that indicated on the Interactive Map as the section where D101B meets Livingstone lake road (beside McFadden Lake) and north for what looks to be 2.5KMs?...OR is logging occurring in another section of D101B?

Thanks for sharing your pics and experience from Saturday morning. Unfortunately, none of it positive. Sled fires+ sleds cornering sideways + fire trucks= Crazy ! Between your warning(s) in the Mary Lake area, Groomer failures in both the Highland Rovers (Emsdale area) & along the Hydro lines from Halliburton to Whitney and the Swamp wash out near Baysville ...I'm running out of destinations to go this coming Saturday ( Feb 8th)!!!!! Coming from East of Bracebridge...I'm not sure which direction I can sled ?

Your picture shows the area in question to be much more serious then when I crossed it on Jan 25th.. I can now see why that section of the trail is showing as "Closed". Just another indication of just how challenging this snowmobile season has ( and continues to ) be this year .... I've never seen that swamp bust through the trail in all the years i traveled over it For anyone who is "in the know" please use this forum to post any updates on the section. * I never investigated but does moving further right or left ( 30 -50 ft) help to make the crossing

I crossed that section on Jan 25th ( at 10am ) the swampy section in question was just a deep depression , upon return 2 hours later the water had broken through and gouged out a wide water filled rut. only the most inexperienced would have an issue getting across.