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Is that where A102Q meets the A/D trail? Is there a maintained lot there? Is there anyone to check in with or pay before parking there? Overnight stays allowed? Looks like a good solution.

Any good public parking spots in North Bay that people use to stage from? Ive used the portage in the past, but found they discourage anything longterm (overnight). Hotels are an option, but if were driving up in the morning and riding out I wouldn't be stayong there overnight. The ITG shows lakeside dr as an option. I believe its directing us to Armstrong park. Anyone parked there? Other options???

I'm thinking just the gen 4 sleds then and probably only certain years. With 25,000 and 30,000 km on our sleds probably no concern with this issue unless we run into a spell of bad gas somewhere. Changing these socks is probably on some maintenance interval recommendation. That'll be how they're getting around the recall. If you follow the schedule this is addressed before its ever an issue to you.

If its plastic then clearly a manufacturing issue. Should be a recall, but wont happen. What is involved in changing them for us folks that do our own work? Is this a one time thing after the sleds been through a cpl thousand km? Or a re-occuring maintenance item? Seems like once its done and tank is clean wouldn't be needed again unless you get into bad gas.

They behave differently on an XS chassis vs gen 4 or 5. Better on the xs chassis.

Enough to cover the grass in Ptbo this morning. All gone now.

Another interesting one. These guys have their crap figured out. East coast up to Nain looks pretty interesting.

Some of their issues are self inflicted. If your gear is failing before you start out on a trip like that might be worth addressing. Not quite the right toboggan setup either. Still pretty cool.

Find something new everyday. These folks are pretty resourceful. Find it hilarious that the dog comes and gets its own ride. Some beautiful country they're traveling in.

Would eat up a ton of floor space too when not in use. Other issue I see is you have to drive 6' across your garage before you get on it. So you're still gonna have carbide damage to your floors vs independent wheels where you can put them on at the slab edge. To each their own. Would be perfect for some peoples applications I'm sure.

Any updates on the Dubreuville area. Did the new trail north to Hornepayne get finished? Any chance things will get opened to the west to be able to run to Marathon?

It's the banana belt. Snow is tough to come by. Especially in Prince Edward County. When they get snow the lennox and addington ridge runners in the Napanee to Kingston area do a great job. Things get groomed up as good as anywhere in the province. They have a rail line that is the backbone of the system and then a mix of good road allowances and farm field running. The network they have south of the 401 is kinda neat. Only trail I'd probably avoid is the one that runs up through Enterprise towards Tamworth. It's tight and narrow. Bombi type grooming or groomed with sleds. There is no trail connection between Napanee and Belleville. Recently they opened a trail to Sharbot lake which is also railbed. Haven't ridden Prince Edward County yet. On the bucket list, but haven't managed to catch them with snow and open trails yet (been trying the last few years and hasn't worked out). Knowing the map the trails out there are somewhat limited, but there is a small trail system across the island. Still probably worth the trek when they do get snow. Most from Kingston head to Sharbot Lake or Cloyne for weekend riding. That's their muskoka cottage country riding and not much over an hour from Kingston. You also have good riding to the east (Prescott to Cornwall area) or trips to Pembroke or Western Quebec are within easy commuting distance.

You're right on the SIR. Still begs the question what could those volunteers hours be doing instead of risk management paperwork? If $167 per permit is volunteer hours what percentage of that goes to risk management? I bet you the dollar value is large. Instead of 4 hrs taking the signage course for the 15th time not learning anything wouldn't that time be better spent actually installing signs? The legal questions are much larger than snowmobiling. What makes Ontario so special? We pay through the nose for insurance here vs the rest of the country. Are accident victims better off here after the fact?

I hear you, but something is off in Ontario. How can it be so different on these issues jumping just one or two provinces in any direction of Ontario. Go to Quebec, New Brunswick or Nova Scotia and you get gps maps and groomer tracking. There volunteers are focused on delivering an exceptional product while our volunteers are focused on defending the insurance companies interest. It was frustrating to be involved with and is frustrating to see. The organization has great people. But way too much effort is going to risk management.

That thought right there is the issue.

Yeah maybe so. Completely different story in cottage country. This is an issue there too, but I'd say ATV's are still the major issue causing closures in areas that are north of the farm belt.

The argument would be atv's in the off season. Its either an atv issue or an insurance liability issue or both. Not snowmobiliers riding closed trails.

I got that e-mail today as well. Wonder if they can use the same tech that gps units with traffic alerts use. Problem is when you loose that traffic data the base map stays the same. If they want the map data to completely disappear then its new tech that isn't common in any current gps units. Don't know what to say here. Landowner relations are important. Feel like there needs to be a tech solution for this before cutting out the old. BRP go is not the solution. GPS units offered something almost no other current solution does. Reliability. They don't freeze, work all the time if powered and provide accurate real time location data without cell service.

How / why did they end up on $14? Some index to inflation? Or expected costs?

Secrets out. https://ucsr.ca/permits/ Kinda funny values. Wonder how they were determined. Weird to see Ontario prices well under New Brunswicks.

With AGM over is there official permit pricing for Ontario available yet? Just jumping through websites and found the new brunswick site. They used to be cheaper than Ontario, but not anymore. Looks like they're bringing in some major increases. Will be interesting to see if it pans out for them. https://www.snowmobilenb.com/permits/

Maybe. I decided its not my problem. They're not the only game in town for insurance by any means.

Yep. Was robbed. Lost two sleds and a trailer from our driveway. Trailer was with another insurer and we had no issues settling things up. Settled on my sled with few issues with one claims adjuster from TD. She was great and we came to a fair deal in short order. Wife's sled was another story. Different adjuster and she had a stick up her arse. After I provided numerous comparables and went back and forth for 6 plus weeks in what I felt was a respectful professional manner we finally came to an agreement that was fair. Figured it was dealt with despite her best efforts to make me the guy that got robbed (the victim) feel like the bad guy. Went shopping several months later. Bought the replacement sled for my wife and called TD from the road on the way home to put coverage in place. At that point, they told me they wouldn't insure me again. Apparently the adjuster red flagged me. No discussion. No mention of it. I was shocked. Been with L and A mutual ever since. Pay a touch more, but I know I'm properly covered. Had one claim at our cottage when tree blew on the dock in a wind storm. Night and day difference working through the claim process. You get what you pay for. I will never deal with TD again for anything (banking, insurance, etc). Real example of how not to treat your customers. The adjustor may think she won, but I have and will continue to tell everyone I know what TD can be like.

TD are crooks. Will never deal with them again.

Wow thats stupid. Lawyers are having way to much say in Ontario snowmobiling. Pass a motion on the floor to have the contract re-enstated. If it's argued ask are we no longer offering paper maps because they don't offer real time status updates?