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Yep to the above. Spectacle is really nice. Golf and ski is not as fancy but a great spot non the less. Started and finished at spectacle, they let us leave vehicles

A phone call from him may be enough, but who knows how many calls dealers are getting from spring buyers looking for dates, scared they will not get what they ordered, when it is supposed to arrive? Be tough to distinguish the wheat from the chaff. Maybe call some dealers, see who may have, or think they may have some back outs, put down some real, refundable dollars. Money does talk, shows commitment. I drive by my local GM dealer, and it looks like they are getting ready to repave the parking lot. Same for the Deere dealer. Deer dealer used to have a nicely stocked corral of lawn type tractors. It's empty, like nothing there. Local Kubota dealer too had nothing on the lot, but it's getting better. I was worried they were shrinking their footprint, closing locations. Not the case thankfully. that would add an hour round trip to get parts. If my lawn tractor blew up tomorrow, I'd probably have to buy a goat. I called my dealer once, last month, just to order a windshield, now, in case they become unobtainium, as the supply chain breaks down. I'll make no more calls. Wait until they have something to tell me. What happens if and when a groomer breaks down, needs parts? Parts for grommers have always been tougher to get, mostly because of shipping and stocking issues. If unavailable, that will be worse.

I had to check the date. 12:30 is a little early to be all shitty faced, but it is a Sunday and the rules of normal do not apply.

Nothing better than an in person, hands on experience.

The online system cuts out a bunch of paperwork. There is an option to allow the club you chose, to contact you via email for volunteering. Personally, I think that's better. If someone wants to help, and the club has a process to contact etc. One needs to want to get involved. Others just buy the permit and complain, not knowing the struggles. When I moved and went to the local dealer to buy a permit, there were 4 options of club. I asked the dealer which club I should contact to volunteer. One club's trail was across the road from my place, a different club at the back. The dealer told me who needed the most help and that sealed the deal. Guess that was a benefit to no online permits.

Dumb question, but what's the market for something like that? I've seen people asking just marginally less (like %5) than I'll end up paying for a new 22. Is it like good used cars and trucks? Happy to get it, for almost new pricing, because new are unobtainium?

Did I mention I was permit guy for the final few years? They'd get dropped off here, then I'd divvy them up between Ron's, Thomboys, Cindy's, Shallow lake, Mumma browns. Weekly pick up of money, hunting down bad checks, getting crapped on for depositing the cash in my bank and writing a check to GBST when it saved us a % 1 cash fee. Fudging the Dec 1 date as far as you could, getting crapped on when you couldn't. Paperwork, and you know my feelings and ability in that department. Worst part (or best) was that technically you could only put permits in a business within your catchment area. Sauble and GBE used to put permits at Ron's. GBE wasn't a problem because of GBST, but by rights we could have pushed the issue and had them removed, but that just makes for bad blood. I don't miss it, and it does make people think about which club the little bit of money goes to. I was with a Southern club for a while, that rarely got good snow, had limited trails but sold 800 permits....because that's the closest place to pick one up on the way North, or it's super convenient You know other clubs that got wealthy this way. No open trails for years but swimming in cash and a brand new groomer. My brother buys one from us, one from Bellwood or Conestoga. This is for the better.

We need bridge builders, as do many clubs. Most can swing a hammer, run a saw, lay down boards. That's as easy as pounding in a stake, hanging a sign, even running a groomer. Grunt work. We need more of them. The tougher bridge work is the bridge between land owners, governments, municipalities, counties, those who would push back at organized sledding and "herding the cats" that are the groomer operators. I self identify as a feral cat. Anti social, avoid humans. That type of person is much harder to come by. Christy can do both FTW!!

True, and sad. We all need to remember, once a trail or trail system is gone, in today's anti powersports, burning carbon for purely pleasure is bad environment, it's probably gone for good. If the trail system ever collapsed, I'd keep the Skandic. Most of us would have no use for even a utility sled, let alone a trail one.

Till Doctor shaft smoker shuts you down you means. Sharpen the pitch forks, warm the tar and pluck the chickens.

Never considered that trade in factor, because I've never done it. I sold mine in the summer because I can ride my brother's spare if needed. It's a Yamacat SR viper, but beggars can not be choosers. Questions for those that have, and general thoughts in what is already a fubar market. Does the dealer give you a value based on the sleds market, mileage and condition when it got parked in the spring? What happens if your new sled isn't ready and you add miles on it this coming season? What is delivery of the new one is mid to late season and you've added thousands of miles? What happens if the trade happens late season, as many others do the same, and all of a sudden dealers are flooded with used sleds at the end of the season?

Well said. if an AGM brings new ideas and new blood, I’m all in. I don’t even think about the expenses I incur while doing anything organized snowmobiling related. I could elaborate, but it’s thousands of dollars a year, easily. This from a guy that maybe did 500km on a sled last year. I literally did at least twice that in the groomer, so I guess I got 1500 km in, on the trails last year lol. Many others do the same. Permit prices should be higher, but without l. enforcement, it’s the law of diminished returns

Doubt they will. Don’t want it? Someone else will. It is sure to upset many if we get a good snow year, and you are sitting on a chair making bbrraaaapp noises.

My sled was slated for a January delivery anyway

People gasped at the pricing of the 22's. Inflation may price the 23's even higher. Production may not return to "normal for some time as well.

My guess would be once you pull it out of the crate and start assembly you are committed. Fully assemble, test and get it out asap. There is no way to put it back in the crate and store it. The more it's handled, the more likely it is to get damaged.

Very reasonable to reach out first, limit expectations. I'd rather have the cold hard truth, as early as possible. Makes planning so much easier. What dealer?

Electric is what it is. A watt is a watt. You can direct the heat, but it's still just math. I installed in wall 3kw fan forced heaters in both bathrooms, thermostats on the wall, not the ones on the heater. Upstairs is heated mainly with a gas fireplace, in the master bedroom. Keeps the master bedroom at any temperature, the rest of the upstairs pretty warm. Baseboards in every room too, with individual thermostats. Guests want it 80F in their room, no problem. The entire house has a triple split heat pump. AC through the entire house, and the garage. Bottom floor is a wood stove, or the heat pump, or baseboard electric. Wood stove, when fired up just pumps heat, massive heat, gotta open the doors and windows so we don't cook sometimes. I could probably heat the whole house with the wood stove...

Yep, you can't always get a concrete truck to the job. You can however mix bags, add rebar vertically to make it better. Yep, takes lots of bags, but its doable. Being cheap causes the problems. I'd do a block wall, if I had too. I'd just make it as strong as possible

Everyone has given good advice. My only caveat is the cinder block walls. Full disclosure, I am a big fan of poured concrete walls. Block walls are fine, above grade, in a dry environment. Many codes say how tall and where, the block wall needs to be filled with concrete/cement. A few years ago I did a pour at one of these block walls. Code said only after an 8 foot high wall, above grade. That fills in the blocks, makes it a solid wall. My previous house, buddy did a block wall for the garage. No filler in the blocks. Water got in it, froze and blew the adhesion from block to block. You literally could lean on the wood wall and the block below would move. Ended up locking in the wall to the reinforced floor I poured. Water is nasty, frozen water is super nasty.

Take it to an auto upholstery shop. List on the doo seat is $660, but I ordered it anyway.

I'd give it a go at running it, if I could convince my wife to cash out here....and find working partners.

Quebec Like the $650 on trail option. That means we would get the money, not a fine that goes to the province. $ 340 for an annual trail permit purchased on or before December 9, 2020 $ 420 for an annual trail permit purchased after December 9, 2020 $ 650 for an annual trail permit sold in trail* $ 260 for an annual trail permit for antique snowmobiles (2001 and older) $ 220 for a 7-day trail permit $ 135 for a 3-day trail permit $ 65 for a 1-day trail permit $ 580 for an annual trail permit for a rental snowmobile $ 30 for a replacement trail permit

Real world lol, I run the groomer, it and it’s fuel supply is at my place. 2015 Prinoth with an 18 foot mogul master drag. 250L of diesel on board, in a main tank and a rear mount feeder tank. it depends on snow conditions a bit, but it burns about 20L per hour. On a good day, our trails, that fuel load can do 120 km of trail. It is not always enough fuel for one of our runs. We have some local sledders that go to a next door clubs fuel supply and supply me cans of diesel, at their home, to top up, so we can continue and do more trail…if they didn’t It might end poorly…groomer out of fuel. Been close to sucking air, haven’t run out yet thanks to volunteers.