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Well, let me tell yuh a thing'r two aboot those lower coolant hoses...... My chum had a new '97 XLT Limited and it had the coveted heated footboards, bulkhead, and likely an under the tunnel coolers, with hoses goin' every which'a'way.... Brand new snowmachine, third trip to Ontario, in March, is the only trips so far AFAIK. Turns up with a hole in it south of the Montreal River on the D trail to Wawa. At this point Willy from the Bristol was with us, and he had a fix for it.... He shoved a [pretty good sized] stick down the hole in the hose, and we limped it to the Montreal. Fortunately the river was open. Come to think of it - that may be the only time I've seen that river open in the winter? It was prox March 20, so they may have been lowering the res in anticipation for spring melt? 96/97 was a HUGE snow year in Algoma! So my chum had to go fetch a can full of water to make the trip to Wawa - leaving the cap loose eh? I think that I have that hose still around - hanging on a "wall of shame" somewhere yet.

So - if you put a bigger or finer pitched gear on it - the skidoo goes faster?

Is that a speedo drive gear down yonder?

Just straitened the crank and put the motor back in the sled yesterday. The worst point on the crank now is .0015, and that is the first bearings in from the mag side - which is Shirley how it came new as we didn't ding that end of the crank. All tweaking was the first throw. It was out .018 to start. Had 2 stroke smoke last night!

Ah, a "see food" diet. I see...

1998 I ran that alone at dusk, and I kept slowing down, and slowing down, and slowing down as I just couldn't focus my eyes. It all just seemed like a blur... THEN I understood! I was coming up on a "sand bar" where the ice had made an 8-10' tall ramp up. I went on up and then had to navigate the mine field above through the broken ice and the stumps. Came down the other side, and on to Wawa and loaded up. Had someone been rolling a good clip up through there - i'd'a been a Toughy.

Well don't take a run down the Magpie armed with that "knowledge"...

How is that physically possible? Maybe near shore as one end supported by the shoreline, and the other "end" floating .... Other than that?

That's one of the reasons that I don't want "a place" somewhere.

"Assaulted" I sure hope someone had to go to the hospital for the cops to hafta git involved.... Shirley started with someone running off at the mouth tho. Not that any of us here would ever doo that.... "One punch don't make no fight"

That's the next story down in the link. The break between stories is poorly shown.

Omemee maybe?

I wondered if there was a river running through there. It's really weird, but where a river/crick/whatever runs through a lake - seems to STAY "river" for some reason. You would think that the whole lake would slowly drift that direction, but the lower/original trench always seems to be the weak link, and you can see it open up first.

Try this: https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/news-story/9855795-peterborough-county-opp-looking-for-answers-after-fiery-rice-lake-crash/

Site must'a crashed? I kan't even git the home page to load.

Man, I agree that it looks AWFULLY thin there! Is there a spring there maybe? I know some shallow lakes have issues with that regularly in some spots. Is it an illussion, or is there a gap between the ice and the water there? I sure hope the rest of the lake is better than that! ESPECIALLY with ATV's as they don't skirt accrost the top like a snowmachine.

I can name off WAY too many dead sleds over the years to list here, and that's just the ones that I can remember... Don't think that any of us have ever blown a track tho??? But ones that come with pics are a little less numerous. Here's a cpl: A) Feb 2004, we unloaded at Terrace Bay and was planning to break open the trail to Longlac as it hadn't been opened yet. Unfortunately - they groomed it just before we got there, and it was hard as a rock. On the way north I could hear a squeek or ??? and I think that I was going through spark plugs frequently. I think that we stayed in Geraldton or Longlac that night. Next day headed west? Just outside of Beardmore, she tied up. Was getting a room in town that night anyhow. Next day - the guys had to ride without their fearless leader. I was hoping to git to where a chum had told me about "The Canyon" (or sumpthing like that) west of there on the pipeline somewhere. I got a ride on the Grey Goose west to Nippigon down 11 (possibly the only one on the buss that didn't speak Cree as a first language?) and then planned on fetchin' a bus back east on 17. Well, once in Nippigon, the next bus east on 17 was like a 7 or 9 hr or ??? layover. There really is no place to "lay over" there. It is just a carry out.... So, I opted to hike back out to the 11/17 split and stick a thumb out. I mean - heck - I'm a good lookin' fella, I'm guessin' that the first chick goin' past would skid to a halt ratt away eh? .... yeah .. well .... maybe I overestimated my abilities here.... I had on Carhart britches anda Skidoo coat, and a facemask turned into a doo rag. (I didn't have a John Deere hat in the snowmachine) Apparently I looked scary? I was out there for a few hours before one poor sod finally stopped to pick me up. He was going as far as Schrieber, which didn't put me quite back to my truck, but ... prolly close enough that I could walk it in several hours if it came to it. So I jumped in. My luck at Schrieber was MUCH better, and got a lift almost immediately back to Terrace Bay. By this time - I'd chewed up most of the day, but at least now I was in my truck and backtracking my days trip. I get to the motel and no-ones there yet. So I winch (come along) the sled up onto the deck myself, and AS SOON as I tied it down, here they all come around the corner of the motel. To this day they swear up and down that they were not watching and waiting for the work to be done, but I have my reservations.... New crank and pistons, and back in business. Then a cpl years later, I start to hear that ping/squeal aggin. Was going through plugs aggin.... Was riding back Mile 38 road north of The Soo, and then on to Halfway and back. Motor finished the weekend, but came apart when I got home. Main bearing took a Schidt once aggin! New crank aggin, but this time I pulled the outter seals and drilled the upper crank case for old skewl lubeing. (ditched the Kluber pack) Did the same to my boys sled in '08. Have yet to have a main bearing failure since, but I did lose a 3rd crank in my sled to tied up con rod bearings. I have my oiler line adjusted to where the update says, but I think that I should maybe ritchen it up a wee bit... Then a few weeks ago we grenaded the clutch on my boys sled. Autopsy showed that it was a train wreck that started with a lost cotter pin on a roller pin. It had been running a while w/o a roller on one arm w/o knowing it, but we was just putzing around between deadfall, and performance wasn't much of an issue, so didn't notice.

90* maybe?

OK, so it is the putz's then.

To whoever might know more aboot this: How does the water not pull it downstream? Especially at break-up? What if a big winter rain storm? I'm guessing that as it is right there, that there is very little flow, but if it swells - I would think that it could rip it out easilly. ??? Intrigued by the engineering part of it.

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Once again - I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? You think the folks there are putz's? Or maybe the fact that F/B is a piss poor forum for a subject like this with ongoing and multiple subjects - where boards and threads are much more betterer? F/B is good for updates and whatnot, but your not going to search for an old subject on a busy page for long.

You must have to leave a dense number of breadcrumbs for that kind of trail!

Just looked at the OFSC map, and Manitouwadge isn't on the map at all. Prolly be a good place to go to for off-trail and not have to buy tags. Could ride out of there in a few different directions each day. The terrain aint all that extreme to the north, but we spent a cpl hours trying to git up a big hill that came straight off the N side of a small lake (swamp?) one day - only to meet the groomer once we hit the top. I'm not sure that the groomer would have gone down that hill tho anyhow. (onto the ice) We are in agreeance that there IS still at least one motel in town eh?