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1 hour ago, slomo said:

This one seems pretty remote.....

 

The Luleå data center opened in 2013, and was Facebook's first outside the US.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3814105/That-s-really-cool-Facebook-gives-rare-glimpse-inside-gigantic-Lule-server-farm-just-70-miles-Artic-circle-Sweden.html

 

It is located deep in the forests of northern Sweden. 

'It's a key part of our global infrastructure, and it uses a variety of local natural resources to increase efficiency and save power,' said Zuckerberg.

'The small town of Luleå is less than 70 miles south of the Arctic Circle, and it's typically pretty cold. 

'The temperature in the area is below 50 degrees most days, so we use large fans to pull in the outside air to naturally cool the thousands of warm servers that line the center's broad hallways.' 

A dozen hydro-electric plants operate on nearby rivers, providing a reliable and renewable power source. 

The whole system is 10% more efficient and uses almost 40% less power than traditional data centers, Facebook claims.

 

 

 

Data centres rely on redundancy for continuous availability. Redundant power, cooling processing and communications. If one component fails the remaining infrastructure picks up the load. That is why most servers run at 40% or less of normal capacity. Two servers for one system at 40% capacity, one fails the remaining server picks up the load of the failed processor and now runs at 80% leaving 20% capacity for spikes in traffic.  Google and likely Facebook based on their sheer size and processing needs have a unique redundancy model. They don't really rely on redundancy within one site rather they have multiple data centres where those data centres are the redundancy. One data centre goes down the remaining data centres absorb the processing load.

 

Using outside ambient temperature for cooling has been increasing significantly in North America, taking advantage of free cooling. Our data centre did just that. During the colder late fall, winter and early spring months the closed loop water/glycol used for cooling ran through outdoor "radiators" with a fan blowing the outdoor cold air over the coils dissipating the heat and cooling the liquid which is then circulated back into the building for server cooling.

 

Big difference in the size and distances to travel. Sweden at 447,435 sq. km. is less than half the size of Ontario at 1.076 million sq. km.

 

From the southern capital of Stockholm it's a 10 hour drive to the site, and now for the big difference between Foyelet and Lulea... the population. Luleå has a population of ion of 76,700 compared to the 177 people in Foyelet. That population base provides a work force to operate and maintain the data centre.

 

I guarantee you it's not going to happen in Canada in a town of 177 where only 117 of them are under the age of 60.

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21 hours ago, 02Sled said:

From the southern capital of Stockholm it's a 10 hour drive to the site, and now for the big difference between Foyelet and Lulea... the population. Luleå has a population of ion of 76,700 compared to the 177 people in Foyelet. That population base provides a work force to operate and maintain the data centre.

 

I guarantee you it's not going to happen in Canada in a town of 177 where only 117 of them are under the age of 60.

Be that as it may, we have had examples of cities springing up in the middle of nowhere all over our fair Dominion....Bai Comeau, Elliot Lake, Pine Point, Kittimat come to mind...Sudbury in its early days...

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2 hours ago, slomo said:

Be that as it may, we have had examples of cities springing up in the middle of nowhere all over our fair Dominion....Bai Comeau, Elliot Lake, Pine Point, Kittimat come to mind...Sudbury in its early days...

If Foyelet suddenly grew and had a population base / demand large enough to support the infrastructure and costs for cell phone and internet it would be provisioned. Business tends to look for opportunities to make money. Not so much lose money. When those cities have "sprung" up in the middle of nowhere they have primarily occurred due to a demand for labour. It could be typically mining or lumber and some temporary such as a town or village to support a construction initiative such as a railway or road.  

 

By the way it seems that those middle of nowhere cities / towns are seeing declining populations in spite of their marketing efforts to grow the population by promoting the town for retirees. Look at Elliot Lake. 2011 they had a population of 11,162, in 2016 that had fallen to 10,498 and of that 4,000 were over the age of 65. (38%) Of that 4,000 approximately 1/2 are over 75 years old.

 

Imagine what the population would be had they not done all that marketing and promotion to seniors to move to Elliot Lake where they could buy a house for so much less than they could sell their southern Ontario home for.

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